Syria conflict: 'Chemical attacks kill hundreds' - Page 10

STEED · 08-27-13, 09:39 AM

Lets get in there and kill them all.

^Thats what you get reading the Mail/express in the UK, just one of many crass comments I have heard made.

Looks like the saying, the only thing the human raced has learnt it has learnt nothing.

For flips sake we have a big problem in the West that is...DEBT! War adds to the debt you morons.

BossMark · 08-27-13, 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by STEED

Lets get in there and kill them all.

^Thats what you get reading the Mail/express in the UK, just one of many crass comments I have heard made.

Looks like the saying, the only thing the human raced has learnt it has learnt nothing.

For flips sake we have a big problem in the West that is...DEBT! War adds to the debt you morons.

Some how STEED me thinks toff boy and that bald headed bastard Hague could not give a toss about the debt or the loss of live.

STEED · 08-27-13, 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by BossMark

Some how STEED me thinks toff boy and that bald headed bastard Hague could not give a toss about the debt or the loss of live.

Feel free to re-post that one.

MH · 08-27-13, 09:51 AM

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P.S. And another small detail: still no evidence has been shown and presented that allows to say that indeed Assad's troops have committed the massacre. It could as well have been the rebels. Many of their factions give as much for civilian lives as Assad, and martyrdom ranks high in their ideologic book. I see it as very likely that it were chemicals used, yes. But no word on what sort of weapons or agents. That it was one side or the other I see as a 50:50 case so far. Because we do not know.

That is more of a reason to blow up whatever stockpiles they can drop their bombs on.
Syria may go its own way but with less chemicals in its backyard.
A point can be made here as well , Mr Obama and other western powers deliver what is promised.
Something that has become a very questionable issue lately.

BossMark · 08-27-13, 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by STEED

Feel free to re-post that one.

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Lets hope Ed tells his MPs to vote the right way and say no to toff boy when they vote on Thursday and the same with bottom wiper Clegg, but will he listen??
Syria: Parliament recalled to discuss UK's response

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-23851292

Skybird · 08-27-13, 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by STEED

Lets get in there and kill them all.

^Thats what you get reading the Mail/express in the UK, just one of many crass comments I have heard made.

Looks like the saying, the only thing the human raced has learnt it has learnt nothing.

For flips sake we have a big problem in the West that is...DEBT! War adds to the debt you morons.

Since our paper money is no real money in the original meaning of the word, but from a banker's POV are debt titles, one could argue - and Keynesians do that in a way - that you cannot have enough debts, because the higher your debts, the richer you are!

I love the German word game. In German, a banknote or paper money is "Scheingeld". Schein=banknote. Schein also has a different meaning: appearance, semblance, meant to point at the illusory nature of something.

Scheingeld=paper money=illusory money.

Wolferz · 08-27-13, 10:22 AM

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Be careful what you ask for. A new Constitutional Convention would be wide open for any changes they wanted to make, with no restrictions. Considering the things you're complaining about and the current strength of the Left, you would probably end up with a much worse situation rather than a better one.

I agree with amendments, but don't cofuse them with a new Constitution. The main reason the president has the power he does is that the members of the original convention knew that George Washington would be the first president, and they trusted him implicitly. That power came back to haunt them, and is still with us today.

On the other hand for all your complaints about the current president, he really doesn't have the kind of power you think he does. He gets a lot of what he wants because Congress is on his side for the most part. The President can suggest and influence all he wants, but he has no power at all to make laws.

Just out of curiosity, exactly what amendments would you propose?

First things first, impeach Obama! Bring Bush up on war crimes and perjury charges.
Toss out every currently sitting senator and congressman just to be sure we get all of them who went along with this insanity called the Patriot Act and start all over.
Repeal the Patriot Act!
Do away with all of these overly expanded, redundant departments and agencies that have been given carte blanche to do as they will like the NSA, DHS etc, etc.
Clean house at the CIA.
Audit the treasury.

I'm not looking for a constitutional rewrite per se. Just add some modern language to it. After all, it was written for the 18th century and the founding fathers couldn't have possibly seen what our government would become in 237 years. A bloated morass of little Napoleons in departments and agencies without end. A nation tangled up in red tape and a government that is competing with its citizens, instead of doing the will of the citizens. They have done too much to create a government run by corporate influence and special interest groups. Running us way beyond broke with war after war after war.
Obama seems to be looking to start world war III and his cronies in congress are going along with it. Do they really think they could win a global thermonuclear conflict while they all hide out under ground in their bunkers?
Armageddon may be closer than you think and we don't get a golden ticket invite to the bunker. Surviving the first strike will still carry a death sentence down the road. Albeit, a long and lingering one.

It would take care of the global warming problem.
Though, from what I've been reading, we may not need to worry about it if we get hit with a kill shot CME from the sun next month.

Talk about rendering all of this crap moot!

Ducimus · 08-27-13, 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by MH

That is more of a reason to blow up whatever stockpiles they can drop their bombs on.

Just FYI, dropping bombs on a chemical stockpile, is an inherently bad idea.

MH · 08-27-13, 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Ducimus

Just FYI, dropping bombs on a chemical stockpile, is an inherently bad idea.

Depends..you don't keep chemicals in active(deadly) state in your backyard.

Wolferz · 08-27-13, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by MH

Depends..you don't keep chemicals in active(deadly) state in your backyard.

Who's to say that they don't have the activating chemicals stored in the same stockpile?

It's their civil war and the rest of us should keep our noses in our own bees wax.

You don't swing at a piñata that has Hornets going in and out of it.

Ducimus · 08-27-13, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Wolferz

It's their civil war and the rest of us should keep our noses in our own bees wax.

I agree, and I think many American's would agree as well. But we both know, that isn't how it's going to pan out. Our government will get us involved somehow, as sure as the sun rises and sets.

Jimbuna · 08-27-13, 11:46 AM

I'm hoping the west don't get involved and especially the UK.

Cameron says the austerity measures currently in place are here for at least another two years so where would the hundreds of millions come from to fund British intervention?

I suspect it would fall on the shoulders of the tax payer and cause even more closures of vital services.

STEED · 08-27-13, 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Skybird

Since our paper money is no real money in the original meaning of the word, but from a banker's POV are debt titles, one could argue - and Keynesians do that in a way - that you cannot have enough debts, because the higher your debts, the richer you are!

I love the German word game. In German, a banknote or paper money is "Scheingeld". Schein=banknote. Schein also has a different meaning: appearance, semblance, meant to point at the illusory nature of something.

Scheingeld=paper money=illusory money.

Send them a copy of.."When Money Dies".

I know paper money is nothing more than a I.O.U

STEED · 08-27-13, 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Jimbuna

I'm hoping the west don't get involved and especially the UK.

Cameron says the austerity measures currently in place are here for at least another two years so where would the hundreds of millions come from to fund British intervention?

I suspect it would fall on the shoulders of the tax payer and cause even more closures of vital services.

The economy bailed out the banks there for the economy can pay. As for the banks they win win win.

eddie · 08-27-13, 11:52 AM

I can't believe we are going to do this and for what? Its going to cause a lot of problems down the road, but the idiots in Washington don't care.

Russia will replace any military equipment the Syrians lose. And if you think Russia is hard to deal with now, its going to get worse. More NSA leaks will be forthcoming too, the Russians will see to that.

Iran and Syria will push Hezbollah to strike at Israel. That's just what the area needs.

I don't believe our country can survive endless wars, why do we have to be involved in every conflict that comes along!?!

BTW, make sure you top off your gas tanks, gasoline is about to go way up!

08-27-13, 09:39 AM	#136
STEED Lucky Jack Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Down Town UK Posts: 27,695 Downloads: 89 Uploads: 48	Lets get in there and kill them all. ^Thats what you get reading the Mail/express in the UK, just one of many crass comments I have heard made. Looks like the saying, the only thing the human raced has learnt it has learnt nothing. For flips sake we have a big problem in the West that is...DEBT! War adds to the debt you morons. __________________ Dr Who rest in peace 1963-2017. To borrow Davros saying...I NAME YOU CHIBNALL THE DESTROYER OF DR WHO YOU KILLED IT!

08-27-13, 11:46 AM	#147
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,525 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	I'm hoping the west don't get involved and especially the UK. Cameron says the austerity measures currently in place are here for at least another two years so where would the hundreds of millions come from to fund British intervention? I suspect it would fall on the shoulders of the tax payer and cause even more closures of vital services. __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

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eddie Ocean Warrior Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Minnesota Posts: 3,023 Downloads: 99 Uploads: 0	I can't believe we are going to do this and for what? Its going to cause a lot of problems down the road, but the idiots in Washington don't care. Russia will replace any military equipment the Syrians lose. And if you think Russia is hard to deal with now, its going to get worse. More NSA leaks will be forthcoming too, the Russians will see to that. Iran and Syria will push Hezbollah to strike at Israel. That's just what the area needs. I don't believe our country can survive endless wars, why do we have to be involved in every conflict that comes along!?! BTW, make sure you top off your gas tanks, gasoline is about to go way up!