[REL] New Wilhelmshaven plus locks for GWX 3

[Wreford-Brown]

Originally Posted by Brunos

True, but you know failure to update mines map can easily cause somebody the end of career like a finger snap. I;m not talking about myself here, I know the position of mines/nets of sub base almost by heart. But there are ppl who don;t and I believe they would feel stupid and pissed off to ram their boats into nets or mines that is even worse I don't think it's even worth lots of talking about it, cuz if you doing something u know u should do it right always.

Modding is a collaborative effort and everyone has their own areas of expertise.

bbw created the St Naz mod, meduza creates a new map showing the minefields etc. Maybe you could create a map showing the new Wilhelmshaven minefields rather than criticising the guy who gave us this great mod.

[Kpt. Lehmann]

Originally Posted by Brunos

True, but you know failure to update mines map can easily cause somebody the end of career like a finger snap.

No. You are incorrect. All that the player would need to do is to re-start from their last save point.

Originally Posted by Brunos

I don't think it's even worth lots of talking about it.

Well you opened your mouth to bitch and whine instead of offering help.

Originally Posted by Brunos

...cuz if you doing something u know u should do it right always.

...Like learning to compose your messages in proper English rather than posting them like some pimply-faced keyboard-warrior tween, text messaging from a cell phone???

People like you, who live in glass houses, really shouldn't throw rocks.

Since you are such a know-it-all, I invite you to come down from your mountain, get to work, and to do a better job... or to at least apologize to those you have insulted... who HAVE done the work to create mods you obviously use.

You really should be ashamed of yourself. You have taken what others have offered freely... and spit in their faces.

[Wreford-Brown]

Originally Posted by Brunos

Heh, it's not that there is no way out of this or a big PITA, it's more the matter of principle, I want this mod to be finished properly. Why should I or somebody else from third persons not related to the mod finish it ? It just don't make sense.

Why should we create mods and release them to the community when people like you bitch and whine about them?

Modding can be very hard work, very time consuming and the modders here create mods in their own time around real life commitments. They are then kind enough to release them for everyone to use.

You've managed to insult more than a few modders with your comments here. If you don't like the mod as it is then I suggest you ask for a full refund.

[nemo7]

Originally Posted by Brunos

Oh here we go again, whos there trying to moralize me ? ) Did I steped on someones precious pride and the rest of wolfpacks shows me their teeth ? Save your breath, what is said is said. Lehman - Nice try cable cowboy it just does not change the fact this matter about mines map has to be altered when talking about perfectionalism but your "freted girl" trolling woun't do the trick What is wrong should be fixed and there is no need to get angry about it. P.S. Lehman - My mountain is my fortress, from here it is better to see things that you don't want to see

"Politeness is one of basic guidelines for all human behaviors and a pervasive feature in human communication."

Save your fire matey; be polite. Maybe you'll like it. You never know...

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by jimbuna

Simply study the screenshot in #128....all that is missing is the net on the eastern shoreline.

Sailing up the centre of the navigation channel (or following your escort out) has always been the safest route....so no change there.

Originally Posted by Brunos

Heh, it's not that there is no way out of this or a big PITA, it's more the matter of principle, I want this mod to be finished properly. Why should I or somebody else from third persons not related to the mod finish it ? It just don't make sense.

I've offered/suggested to you a workaround for the time being in a polite manner...I can do no more.

End of my activity on this thread.

[Sailor Steve]

Originally Posted by Wreford-Brown

Why should we create mods and release them to the community when people like you bitch and whine about them?

Complaining about it once is justified. Going on and on about it is not. It's the perfect way to get whoever did it to stop making mods altogether. You are correct, but your first comment was pretty insulting.

So, I'm still confused. Is the map correct? Are the mines and nets right in front of the Northeast locks?

[melnibonian]

Originally Posted by Brunos

Why ? It is a perfect chance to bitch about. I don't think adjusting mines map is something too special or hard to make. So what's the fuss ? If this was my mod I would already made a fix long time ago. However nor I have skills or knowledge to make mods - I'm not starting to mess with. Critisizing mods is as much legal as claping hands from joy when anything new is released. So stop bitching that someones bitching and make the bloody fix if you know how, instead of venting yourself with empty talks.

You know that "bitching" as you so eloquently put it doesn't mean that you have to be rude and insult other people. As it is your right to "bitch" it is the right of everyone not to "make the bloddy fix" and totally ignore you. Knowing BBW and the other guys within the Mod Team I say that you will accomplish much more if you lower your tones and start behaving with a little bit more respect about others and their feelings.

[Wreford-Brown]

Originally Posted by Brunos

Why ? It is a perfect chance to bitch about. I don't think adjusting mines map is something too special or hard to make. So what's the fuss ? If this was my mod I would already made a fix long time ago. However nor I have skills or knowledge to make mods - I'm not starting to mess with. Critisizing mods is as much legal as claping hands from joy when anything new is released. So stop bitching that someones bitching and make the bloody fix if you know how, instead of venting yourself with empty talks.

I may not know how to fix it but I'm polite enough to not insult people who have released mods to help improve the game. I also seldom stoop to profanity.

When you learn to be polite and ask rather than insult then people are far more likely to be helpful. A thread entitled '[REQ] New Wilhelmshaven map for bbw's Wilhelmshaven mod' is likely to bring a plethora of skilled modders to your aid.

[JMV]

I think your avatar should be "Keelhauled"
For the least...

[mookiemookie]

it takes a special kind of asshat to whine that a completely free major overhaul isn't just so perfect. If you don't like it, don't use it - simple as that. These guys owe you nothing and your spoiled and petulant attitude of entitlement deserves nothing more than a big middle finger, not a new minefield map.

[Sailor Steve]

Originally Posted by Brunos

You're too gone out of subject. We ain't talking about me and my manners my looks or what I had today for breakfast! It's totaly offtopic. You guys so much are into polite bull****ing that sometimes you forget what is really important. Important is quality full mods. If there is a problem it has to be fixed right ? Why most of you are so scared of straight talking ? Is it my fault that I want this mod to be completed properly ? I'm not demanding here anything, I'm just asking to give me fixed harbour map is that so damn MUCH ? PLEEEAAAAASE ?

You may not be talking about your manners, but we are. You have managed to insult and alienate just about everyone on this forum. At this point no one really cares too much what you want.

There is an old saying: "You catch more flies with honey than with vinegar." Even your last line, claiming you aren't demanding anything, reads like a demand. And no one has offered to help. Maybe that should tell you something.

[Sailor Steve]

And now, when pretty much everybody has disagreed with you, rather than consider that you might be wrong you start insulting people again.

As for not caring about how people see you, that's fine; but as I said, how people see you governs how they react to your 'requests'.

It's not about image, it's about respect. Being polite always gets faster and better help than otherwise.

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by jimbuna

I've offered/suggested to you a workaround for the time being in a polite manner...I can do no more.

End of my activity on this thread.

Originally Posted by Brunos

So what were you saying ?

For you I guess I'll make an exception.

There is really no need for this type of behaviour and ending offensive lines with a cheerful smiley does not make matters right

Thread reported....but I suspect that is what your after anyway.

[Sailor Steve]

Okay, we're in church now. People have asked you to play nicely, and you've responded with repeated hostility and insults, and now outright vulgarity.

I usually try to reason with people, but this is your only warning - either play nice or you will find yourself not playing at all for awhile.

[Hitman]

So it seems I can't go out of town for three days without someone starting an escapade into nonesense?

Maintenance done ... infraction given. Remember our basic principle: Don't like it, don't use. It's fair considering the price you paid for it, isn't it?