US Navy Mans Two Nuclear Subs with Women - Page 3

XanderF · 04-01-08, 02:01 PM

The coup de grâce for the article would have been if they announced the names of the new subs being commissioned for this purpose:

SSN-784 USS Amazon
SSN-785 USS Valkyrie

Midnight Hunter · 04-01-08, 02:02 PM

I figured it was a fake really quick.. glad I was right lol

ASW Jedi · 04-01-08, 02:05 PM

Yep had me going for a few minutes

I posted it to Navy Together We Served. I am sure the old salts will have a conniption fit at this one.

Nate8thcvi · 04-01-08, 02:16 PM

What is this world coming to?

Nate

werdegast · 04-01-08, 03:06 PM

"I Found the Subsim 2008 April Fool's Easter Egg!"

GSpector · 04-01-08, 03:09 PM

Now that story has "history in the making" writen all over it

EdPerrone · 04-01-08, 03:43 PM

I suspect I am way late ... that'll teach me to start reading the SubSim e-mails FIRST when I get my mail......

--- Ed

Marinero706 · 04-01-08, 03:53 PM

Relax Sluissa, it's April first! You're being way too uptight to fit in on a sub's crew

When I see more female sailors coming through prototype that can actually turn the large valves (not just the little ones) on their own, I'll think you're right and their time has come. And no, they can't just go get someone else to do it for them. Everyone on a sub has to be able to do their own job, plus cross-training as backup. It's not just pushing buttons that makes a sub go...

scrag · 04-01-08, 03:56 PM

Holy **** okay very funny. BTW the issue the USN is facing with Woman on Subs is 2 fold:
Habitability - woman currently require seperate berthing and heads
Proximity of space - there is a lot of incidental brushing as you pass another imagine getting a Dolley Parton or Anna Nicole - that would result in serious issues even if the Girl was okay and understood.
It is feasible on the SSGN/SSBN but SSN's not likely unless the US as a society relaxes some.

But ask the Aussie's how they like the female crew members (none that I spoken with are very happy with it)

cowman1009 · 04-01-08, 05:19 PM

At first I thought....NO WAY!! Almost believable being that the NY Times "wrote" it. But then after some thought and remembering the date it was pretty simple.

generalderpanzertruppen · 04-01-08, 05:40 PM

Australia became the second country in the world to allow women to serve on submarines in 1998. I don't see why some of you guys seem to have a problem with them serving in the Silent Service. We haven't lost a single Collins class sub because of women serving onboard, why would it be an issue for the USN? Get with the times guys!

PeriscopeDepth · 04-01-08, 08:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by generalderpanzertruppen

Australia became the second country in the world to allow women to serve on submarines in 1998. I don't see why some of you guys seem to have a problem with them serving in the Silent Service. We haven't lost a single Collins class sub because of women serving onboard, why would it be an issue for the USN? Get with the times guys!

It would be different if Australia operated SSNs/SSBNs. Whole different situation there. It's a lot different when you're on a diesel boat that stays out for a lot less time than nucs. Not to mention stays a lot closer to home for the most part.

PD

Captain Vlad · 04-01-08, 08:31 PM

The joke itself seems...well, actually it is in poor taste a bit. Like someone else said, a taunt.

What's funny, though, is seeing all the opposition, all the same excuses used against female fighter pilots, etc, being trotted out again. Boys afraid to share their toys with the girls.

Grow a pair, gentlemen.

scrag · 04-01-08, 11:08 PM

Talking with a good friend of mine that I work with the rest of the crew is not fond of them at all - actually dread having to deal with them or so it seems.

Norway had a female skipper - the difference is cultural to some extent.
The big experiment of integrating woman into front line service (Navy wise) has met with limited (at best success) We were all laughing at the messages from the Carrier that deployed with them on a Med Run (first ever). They ended up with some very interesting problems vs some very enterprising woman who knew how to make some money. Mast's cases rose, fights rose, etc.

The Navy can not by regulation can not assign a female to a ship that can not provide seperate facilities. End of story.

PeriscopeDepth · 04-01-08, 05:47 PM

Interesting, I did not know this.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Submari...s_part_of_crew

PD

04-01-08, 02:01 PM	#1
XanderF Samurai Navy Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 554 Downloads: 14 Uploads: 0	The coup de grâce for the article would have been if they announced the names of the new subs being commissioned for this purpose: SSN-784 USS Amazon SSN-785 USS Valkyrie __________________

04-01-08, 02:05 PM	#3
ASW Jedi Swabbie Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Iowa Posts: 10 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I Found the Subsim 2008 April Fool's Easter Egg! Yep had me going for a few minutes I posted it to Navy Together We Served. I am sure the old salts will have a conniption fit at this one.

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Nate8thcvi Watch Join Date: May 2001 Location: Connecticut Posts: 27 Downloads: 26 Uploads: 0	"I Found the Subsim 2008 April Fool's Easter Egg!" What is this world coming to? Nate

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werdegast Bilge Rat Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 1 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	"I Found the Subsim 2008 April Fool's Easter Egg!" "I Found the Subsim 2008 April Fool's Easter Egg!"

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GSpector Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Colorado Springs Posts: 676 Downloads: 11 Uploads: 0	"I Found the Subsim 2008 April Fool's Easter Egg!" Now that story has "history in the making" writen all over it __________________ Specter

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Midnight Hunter Mate Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Canada Posts: 56 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I figured it was a fake really quick.. glad I was right lol

04-01-08, 03:43 PM	#7
EdPerrone Bilge Rat Join Date: May 2004 Location: Texas Posts: 1 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	I Found the Subsim 2008 April Fool's Easter Egg! I suspect I am way late ... that'll teach me to start reading the SubSim e-mails FIRST when I get my mail...... --- Ed

04-01-08, 03:53 PM	#8
Marinero706 Nub Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Statesboro, GA Posts: 3 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Relax Sluissa, it's April first! You're being way too uptight to fit in on a sub's crew When I see more female sailors coming through prototype that can actually turn the large valves (not just the little ones) on their own, I'll think you're right and their time has come. And no, they can't just go get someone else to do it for them. Everyone on a sub has to be able to do their own job, plus cross-training as backup. It's not just pushing buttons that makes a sub go... __________________ Run silent (to your rack!), Run Deep(under deckplates during field day) USS Albuquerque SSN-706 EM1(SS) \'96-\'00

04-01-08, 03:56 PM	#9
scrag Medic Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Pearl Harbor, Hawaii Posts: 161 Downloads: 6 Uploads: 0	Good One Holy **** okay very funny. BTW the issue the USN is facing with Woman on Subs is 2 fold: Habitability - woman currently require seperate berthing and heads Proximity of space - there is a lot of incidental brushing as you pass another imagine getting a Dolley Parton or Anna Nicole - that would result in serious issues even if the Girl was okay and understood. It is feasible on the SSGN/SSBN but SSN's not likely unless the US as a society relaxes some. But ask the Aussie's how they like the female crew members (none that I spoken with are very happy with it) __________________

04-01-08, 05:19 PM	#10
cowman1009 Watch Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Connecticut Posts: 28 Downloads: 45 Uploads: 0	Found the Easter Egg At first I thought....NO WAY!! Almost believable being that the NY Times "wrote" it. But then after some thought and remembering the date it was pretty simple. __________________ Mark Nagorniuk

04-01-08, 05:40 PM	#11
generalderpanzertruppen Nub Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Sydney, NSW, Australia Posts: 2 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Australia became the second country in the world to allow women to serve on submarines in 1998. I don't see why some of you guys seem to have a problem with them serving in the Silent Service. We haven't lost a single Collins class sub because of women serving onboard, why would it be an issue for the USN? Get with the times guys! __________________ troy feldpost.tv

04-01-08, 08:31 PM	#13
Captain Vlad Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Pollard, Oklahoma Posts: 679 Downloads: 6 Uploads: 0	The joke itself seems...well, actually it is in poor taste a bit. Like someone else said, a taunt. What's funny, though, is seeing all the opposition, all the same excuses used against female fighter pilots, etc, being trotted out again. Boys afraid to share their toys with the girls. Grow a pair, gentlemen. __________________ "Stop sounding battlestations just to hear the alarm."

04-01-08, 11:08 PM	#14
scrag Medic Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Pearl Harbor, Hawaii Posts: 161 Downloads: 6 Uploads: 0	Norway then Australia Talking with a good friend of mine that I work with the rest of the crew is not fond of them at all - actually dread having to deal with them or so it seems. Norway had a female skipper - the difference is cultural to some extent. The big experiment of integrating woman into front line service (Navy wise) has met with limited (at best success) We were all laughing at the messages from the Carrier that deployed with them on a Med Run (first ever). They ended up with some very interesting problems vs some very enterprising woman who knew how to make some money. Mast's cases rose, fights rose, etc. The Navy can not by regulation can not assign a female to a ship that can not provide seperate facilities. End of story. __________________

04-01-08, 05:47 PM	#15
PeriscopeDepth Sea Lord Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Pacific NW Posts: 1,894 Downloads: 6 Uploads: 0	Interesting, I did not know this. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Submari...s_part_of_crew PD