Clinton responsible for Warrantless Wiretapping?

[Sea Demon]

Originally Posted by August

i find the Democrats willingness to ignore that fact just because he's one of their own to be hypocritical.

I find it totally lacking in intellectual honesty.

[bradclark1]

Originally Posted by August

Nobody in Congress cared a hoot about him cheating on Hillary. They felt for some reason that Clinton lying, under oath, in a court of law, constituted obstruction of justice and perjury, both impeachable offenses. Ultimately they let him off the hook for political reasons even though it was pretty clear he had done exactly that.

The usual political obfuscations are one thing ,but in my book the President of our country is supposed to be trustworthy and lying under oath, REGARDLESS of the subject, is just not acceptable.

Everything was down party lines. The whole thing was a job plain an simple. Forty billion dollars was spent on that. Thats $40,000,000,000!
But it's worth it to get a Democrat huh. Pure stupidity.
In your book is an illusion. There isn't a politician on that hill who isn't a lying scumbag. But I guess in your book there is lying and there is lying. What would be the difference between the two? They are both spelled the same, they each mean the same, so what exactly is the difference? It's okay here but not there? Should we make it law that every time a politician says something they should raise their right hand and be put under oath? Get real!

It's pretty clear that the man was/is a sexual predator and i find the Democrats willingness to ignore that fact just because he's one of their own to be hypocritical

The guy is dirt. The "Democrats " don't deny that. I don't believe the term sexual predator was used but your personal opinion on it doesn't matter. The "Democrats " think it's pretty darn stupid to bring a country to a virtual stand still and spend $40,000,000,000 over a blow job.
Not hypocrisy just aversion to stupidity.

[Sea Demon]

Originally Posted by bradclark1

The fuss is the level of expansion under Bush. If you going to run a bash Clinton thread at least say the whole thing. It's no revelation either, back then the Republicans tried blocking. It made the news enough. Blame it all on Clinton. Lied about a blow job too. Now thats a real serious issue that deserves attention.

Yes. Lying under Oath.....Perjury is a serious matter that deserves a tremendous amount of attention. The Senate should have taken impeachment the whole way. The Lie being told under oath is utterly irrelevant.

[August]

Originally Posted by Sea Demon

Yes. Lying under Oath.....Perjury is a serious matter that deserves a tremendous amount of attention. The Senate should have taken impeachment the whole way. The Lie being told under oath is utterly irrelevant.

Don't you realize that stuff only counts when Repubicans do it?

[Tchocky]

Originally Posted by August

Repubicans

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[August]

Originally Posted by Tchocky

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Ooops I forgot the L. What would I have done without you to point that out Tchocky?

[NEON DEON]

Originally Posted by Sea Demon

Yes. Lying under Oath.....Perjury is a serious matter that deserves a tremendous amount of attention. The Senate should have taken impeachment the whole way. The Lie being told under oath is utterly irrelevant.

They did take is serious. Unfortunately for the Repubicans the charge was defeated 45 to 55 and Clinton was never found guilty of perjury. Sorry about that.

[Sea Demon]

Originally Posted by NEON DEON

They did take is serious. Unfortunately for the Repubicans the charge was defeated 45 to 55 and Clinton was never found guilty of perjury. Sorry about that.

Clinton was barely acquitted in the Senate. He was found guilty in the House before it went to the Senate, and was duly impeached in the House. That is forever logged in the House of Rep's records. Read Clinton's words below for yourself after all of the proceedings:

http://www.eagleton.rutgers.edu/e-go...tonimpeach.htm

He sounds pretty resigned, acknowledges wrongdoing, and was pretty much disgraced as a President from that point on. Oh yeah, and he was disbarred. Sorry about that.

[NEON DEON]

Originally Posted by Sea Demon

Clinton was barely acquitted in the Senate. He was found guilty in the House before it went to the Senate, and was duly impeached in the House. That is forever logged in the House of Rep's records. Read Clinton's words below for yourself after all of the proceedings:

http://www.eagleton.rutgers.edu/e-go...tonimpeach.htm

He sounds pretty resigned, acknowledges wrongdoing, and was pretty much disgraced as a President from that point on. Oh yeah, and he was disbarred. Sorry about that.

First off it takes 2/3s in the Senate which means barely would be 66 to 34. Barely in your mind is quite interesting. You want to see someone almost get knocked out of office then go back to Andrew Johnson. Now that was barely :p

Second the Congress does not and can not put the President on trial they vote for impeachment only. The trial is in the senate.

So---- No the House did not find Clinton Guilty.

No where in Clinton's apology did he say he committed perjury. Maybee you should read it again.


This time use Webster's Dictionary as opposed to SeaDeamons. :p