Rusty or Not - Page 2

Adriatico · 10-19-07, 04:24 PM

It is not that simple...rusty or not rusty.

Sea weathering on metal surface is :
-salt and iodium color damage
-biological (alge) crusts
-rust

...and it is not that simple to re-paint in port, it takes hard work to "cure" the base surface before repainting (last thing that somebody will do in bombed hangars)

Weathered subs died silently in a far away corners of ocean without photographers and any possibility of remaining documents...

Chock · 10-19-07, 04:51 PM

I always use my old Type VII repaint which I posted on here years ago, with some rust, it's kind of more battered than rusted:

Chock

mrbeast · 10-19-07, 05:16 PM

Further to this; was watching a docu on Discovery Channel earlier which showed HMS Swiftsure the modern SSN. She looked in a pretty rough condition, missing acustic tiles, patches of rust and what looked like green algae growing on her bows. Plus the usual encrustations of salt etc. So even in peacetime subs can look pretty scruffy. I was surprised how poor her condition was, I presume she was due for a refit not long after the program was made.

Sailor Steve · 10-30-07, 06:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chock

I always use my old Type VII repaint which I posted on here years ago, with some rust, it's kind of more battered than rusted:

Chock, I always liked that skin as well, mainly because it has the sunken metal between the frames. I can't show a picture from my old DD right now, but her fantail had the same sinking effect. That's why we always called the Brinkley Bass "Wrinkley @$$".

I wish some of the camo mods had that as well.

CapZap1970 · 11-03-07, 08:42 AM

New paint for me, please.

CapZap

horsa · 11-05-07, 07:10 AM

Adriatico wrote

Quote:

It is not that simple...rusty or not rusty.

Sea weathering on metal surface is :
-salt and iodium color damage
-biological (alge) crusts
-rust

...and it is not that simple to re-paint in port, it takes hard work to "cure" the base surface before repainting (last thing that somebody will do in bombed hangars)

Weathered subs died silently in a far away corners of ocean without photographers and any possibility of remaining documents...

Funkmaat wrote

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Did you see the state of the Ark Royal on the way to the Falklands/Malvinas?

...... and back

MackTheGovnah · 10-20-07, 04:25 AM

When a U-boat returned from patrol it was scraped and repainted while the crew was on leave and the u-boat was in dock, simple as that

Read the book "Black May". In it there are excerpts from captured U-boat men who were imprisoned with members of the other branches of the German armed services. This was done to extract information that was not possible from interrogations. For instance a planesman would be put in a cell with a captured luft pilot. They would share stories and information and all the while the room was tapped with hidden mics to pick up the information.

The pictures you see of rusty U-boats are of those that have been at sea for several weeks and endured the elements. 10 weeks at sea will do that to any ship. Uboats did not leave port looking like rusted out hulks.

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10-19-07, 04:24 PM	#1
Adriatico Grey Wolf Join Date: May 2007 Location: Periscope depth Posts: 860 Downloads: 119 Uploads: 0	It is not that simple...rusty or not rusty. Sea weathering on metal surface is : -salt and iodium color damage -biological (alge) crusts -rust ...and it is not that simple to re-paint in port, it takes hard work to "cure" the base surface before repainting (last thing that somebody will do in bombed hangars) Weathered subs died silently in a far away corners of ocean without photographers and any possibility of remaining documents... __________________

10-19-07, 04:51 PM	#2
Chock Sea Lord Join Date: May 2005 Location: Under a thermal layer in chilly Olde England Posts: 1,842 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I always use my old Type VII repaint which I posted on here years ago, with some rust, it's kind of more battered than rusted: Chock __________________

10-19-07, 05:16 PM	#3
mrbeast Ace of the Deep Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Bolton, UK Posts: 1,236 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Further to this; was watching a docu on Discovery Channel earlier which showed HMS Swiftsure the modern SSN. She looked in a pretty rough condition, missing acustic tiles, patches of rust and what looked like green algae growing on her bows. Plus the usual encrustations of salt etc. So even in peacetime subs can look pretty scruffy. I was surprised how poor her condition was, I presume she was due for a refit not long after the program was made. __________________

11-03-07, 08:42 AM	#5
CapZap1970 Sea Lord Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: La Paz, Bolivia Posts: 1,965 Downloads: 277 Uploads: 51	New paint for me, please. CapZap __________________

10-20-07, 04:25 AM	#7
MackTheGovnah Watch Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 16 Downloads: 60 Uploads: 0	When a U-boat returned from patrol it was scraped and repainted while the crew was on leave and the u-boat was in dock, simple as that Read the book "Black May". In it there are excerpts from captured U-boat men who were imprisoned with members of the other branches of the German armed services. This was done to extract information that was not possible from interrogations. For instance a planesman would be put in a cell with a captured luft pilot. They would share stories and information and all the while the room was tapped with hidden mics to pick up the information. The pictures you see of rusty U-boats are of those that have been at sea for several weeks and endured the elements. 10 weeks at sea will do that to any ship. Uboats did not leave port looking like rusted out hulks. __________________ Check out my filefront page http://hosted.filefront.com/MackTheGovnah/