Making Il-2 movies

XabbaRus · 09-10-07, 04:20 PM

I have 10 AVi clips from fraps, and I have Ulead video studio but it is a bit cumbersome, what is a good one to use to add music. Then do I convert to DivX after I have put it all together?

Dowly · 09-10-07, 04:29 PM

If you have WinXP, the Windows Movie Maker is another easy program to use. It comes with Windows XP, so you should have it installed by default.

XabbaRus · 09-10-07, 04:57 PM

i do, just the quality is a bit pants.

Dowly · 09-10-07, 05:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XabbaRus

i do, just the quality is a bit pants.

Yes, you cant get as high quality out with WMM.

SUBMAN1 · 09-10-07, 05:43 PM

Fraps has FPS limitations. I evetually went to a dedicated system to record the output from the video card. You could make one from another system using a frame capture card like an ATI 550 - which would produce excellent results, I instead opted for a hacked Tivo series 1 (A couple buttons on the remote - and you're already recording). You soldier an ethernet cable to the mainboard, and then install a telnet client, so you can get to a BASH script, install and start a server if need be. The Tivo is a simple Linux box with a capture card is all. Then you just start your server which will pull the .ty stream off the Tivo to your mainbox, then mux it into an MPEG-2 stream from the ty stream (it is already an MPEG-2 - just that it needs to be put into a proper format that can be read).

The ATI x1900 XTX will output 1024x768 over the S-VHS out on the board, so the Tivo is the perfect device to pick that up as it is a dedicated platform in a small package. The S/VHS spec calls for 480x480, so that will be your true capture size, but don't think for a second that will be too small. Then you simply scale it for 4:3 aspect ratio which is 640x480, then crop the black borders, which leaves you with an excellent looking 572x432 resolution video. The only problem is, file size. Figure for decent looking MPEG-2 video that you should account for 1 GB per 30 minutes of capture, and for decent MPEG-4 video, account for about 2/3rds that. MPEG-2 uses more I frames so it will always be the better looking of the 2, but MPEG-4 looks excellent in much less space - just remember that any errors in the I frame will continue on for a very long time as it bounces between P and B frames before ever getting back to an I frame.

-S

PS. I forgot to mention - the Tivo series 2 is locked down. You can't hack it like a series 1. No problem though - you can find series 1's all over the place on Ebay - http://cgi.ebay.com/Philips-Series-1...QQcmdZViewItem - This one ends in less than a day and only has a $0.99 price tag so far.

Kratos · 09-10-07, 06:40 PM

Another option: You could always post the .trk file. let people d/l and install via Il2 and watch. downside is (we get to see the whole track)

But if your willing to pays your money I hear (growler) guncam does the best job, it's not a system hog and it gives pretty good results (unlike fraps) I'll get it one day, but I'm quite happy with fraps/vdub/wmm for the moment.lets face it were not going to get any oscars or bafta's or such ......right thankyou very much i would like to thank my mother and my granny and my .................:rotfl:

HunterICX · 09-11-07, 04:28 AM

Now now kratos,

calm down, I know you couldnt lose your adreline yesterday because of the itsy bitsy rain that caused serious power glitches in the whole freaking village of ours.

Xabba, the default Movie maker is crap in XP
but the Updated version (I think it comes with a service pack) is quiet good to learn the curves of movie editting. I say start with the updated movie maker of windows. and when you get the hang of it..use Ulead studio

09-10-07, 04:20 PM	#1
XabbaRus Navy Seal Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 5,330 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	I have 10 AVi clips from fraps, and I have Ulead video studio but it is a bit cumbersome, what is a good one to use to add music. Then do I convert to DivX after I have put it all together? __________________

09-10-07, 04:57 PM	#3
XabbaRus Navy Seal Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 5,330 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	i do, just the quality is a bit pants. __________________

09-10-07, 05:43 PM	#5
SUBMAN1 Rear Admiral Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 11,866 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Fraps has FPS limitations. I evetually went to a dedicated system to record the output from the video card. You could make one from another system using a frame capture card like an ATI 550 - which would produce excellent results, I instead opted for a hacked Tivo series 1 (A couple buttons on the remote - and you're already recording). You soldier an ethernet cable to the mainboard, and then install a telnet client, so you can get to a BASH script, install and start a server if need be. The Tivo is a simple Linux box with a capture card is all. Then you just start your server which will pull the .ty stream off the Tivo to your mainbox, then mux it into an MPEG-2 stream from the ty stream (it is already an MPEG-2 - just that it needs to be put into a proper format that can be read). The ATI x1900 XTX will output 1024x768 over the S-VHS out on the board, so the Tivo is the perfect device to pick that up as it is a dedicated platform in a small package. The S/VHS spec calls for 480x480, so that will be your true capture size, but don't think for a second that will be too small. Then you simply scale it for 4:3 aspect ratio which is 640x480, then crop the black borders, which leaves you with an excellent looking 572x432 resolution video. The only problem is, file size. Figure for decent looking MPEG-2 video that you should account for 1 GB per 30 minutes of capture, and for decent MPEG-4 video, account for about 2/3rds that. MPEG-2 uses more I frames so it will always be the better looking of the 2, but MPEG-4 looks excellent in much less space - just remember that any errors in the I frame will continue on for a very long time as it bounces between P and B frames before ever getting back to an I frame. -S PS. I forgot to mention - the Tivo series 2 is locked down. You can't hack it like a series 1. No problem though - you can find series 1's all over the place on Ebay - http://cgi.ebay.com/Philips-Series-1...QQcmdZViewItem - This one ends in less than a day and only has a $0.99 price tag so far. __________________ Last edited by SUBMAN1; 09-10-07 at 05:54 PM.

09-10-07, 06:40 PM	#6
Kratos Ace of the Deep Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 1,267 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Another option: You could always post the .trk file. let people d/l and install via Il2 and watch. downside is (we get to see the whole track) But if your willing to pays your money I hear (growler) guncam does the best job, it's not a system hog and it gives pretty good results (unlike fraps) I'll get it one day, but I'm quite happy with fraps/vdub/wmm for the moment.lets face it were not going to get any oscars or bafta's or such ......right thankyou very much i would like to thank my mother and my granny and my .................:rotfl: __________________

09-11-07, 04:28 AM	#7
HunterICX Rear Admiral Join Date: May 2006 Location: Malaga, España Posts: 10,750 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 0	Now now kratos, calm down, I know you couldnt lose your adreline yesterday because of the itsy bitsy rain that caused serious power glitches in the whole freaking village of ours. Xabba, the default Movie maker is crap in XP but the Updated version (I think it comes with a service pack) is quiet good to learn the curves of movie editting. I say start with the updated movie maker of windows. and when you get the hang of it..use Ulead studio __________________

09-10-07, 04:29 PM	#2
Dowly Lucky Jack Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Finland Posts: 25,054 Downloads: 32 Uploads: 0	If you have WinXP, the Windows Movie Maker is another easy program to use. It comes with Windows XP, so you should have it installed by default.