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05-09-24, 12:49 AM | #1 |
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pancoast and aktungbby:
Yes, yes I understand all that, but my assignment was in 1941...way down there in Africa? C'mon, guys. British shipping up north into and away from the Isles was much more critical to destroy in the early years. Your comments are obviously correct, much later in the war, but not at the onset. I think we must accept that patrol assignments in the game are randomly assigned with no focus on accuracy and generally can be ignored without any negatives. Maybe you have some historical reference that makes my position invalid (?) I know of no subs assigned deep into the coast of Africa in 1941, but perhaps you have a reference that corrects me. BTW - I grew up in Chicago and am very well aware of U-505 and visited it often. -=Archive1=- |
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U 69 5 May - 8 Jul 1941 https://uboat.net/boats/patrols/patrol_492.html
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05-13-24, 10:11 PM | #4 |
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La Vache and Aktungbby:
I accept your corrections. Clearly some unterseeboots were operating off the African coast. My statements were off base and incorrect. But... I still cannot understand why the sub command would divert critical, and limited number, of subs to this far southern arena when the coastal waters of the UK were so critical to control and that the necessary-to-exist materiel which was needed, had to end in UK ports. Anything coming from elsewhere still had to, must, clear the UK coast and end-up in its limited number of destination harbors for unloading. A balance, perhaps, between the hazard of UK aircraft up north and its density of shipping, and the safety of the south and fewer ships. We know from Churchill's books that the situation was increasingly dire for the UK. Obviously, I was not asked for my opinion by Doenitz! -=Archive1=- |
05-13-24, 10:41 PM | #5 | |
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As to why some u-boats were sent south, a large part of that was because the hunting was easier, more successful and less dangerous than in the North Atlantic. A lot of Allied traffic went to west African ports and around the cape of south Africa to supply forces in both North Africa and the Far East. The Mediterranean was rightly considered too dangerous for this traffic. At times too Doenitz was *told* where u-boats would be sent, regardless of other plans he wanted to do with them. This was especially true regarding the Mediterranean.
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05-15-24, 10:34 PM | #6 |
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Pancoast:
I would not pretend to debate your accuracy, but I do think that the material I have read about N. Atlantic tonnage sunk in these earlier years (by both German and British historians) does indeed support Churchill's concerns in his many books and comments on the subject. But all that is irrelevant. U-subs did go south. Some southern station orders from UBoat command would be valid. Accepted. But, I'll still hunt effectively in the northern waters. Since Doenitz can't touch me. And I can save fuel for long hunting periods and still get back to Lorient with more than just fumes left in the tank. With respect, -=Archive1=- |
06-11-24, 11:05 PM | #7 |
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Installation of LSH3-2022
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I have become tired of having no attack scope (see my earlier comments) and decided to download a fresh version of LSH3-2022 to see if the new download would take care of the problem. But... The putative English version of the download directions are in German (as, of course, are the German directions.) That is not useful. But also when I do download the Full.exe code into the C: Download folder. And then drag/drop it into a new E:"LSH3-2022 New" folder to extract, it does what it has done before: it wants to extract via 7-zip with a password. There is no password for 7-zip on my computer. (I have complained about this before.) I was severely taken to task by one of your major...whatever...for not following directions. A message in all Capital letters, BTW Well, I have followed the directions, translated into English. And I get the same problem. 7-Zip wants a password to extract. Wilhelmshaven...we have a problem. A persistent problem, to say nothing of why suddenly the arrow keys do not move the attack scope from R to L, although it raises and lowers with the up/down arrow. (I use the O scope for everything...do I have a choice? No.) I've worked with LSH3 since it emerged. But I have to say things are falling apart, guys. -=Archive 1=- |
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