Here we go again-Ukraine once again

[mapuc]

The weather forecast for East Ukraine next week is...rain...rain..and rain...(someone mentioned this in a stream) So I checked it

Donbass
https://www.worldweatheronline.com/n...oblast/ua.aspx

Luhansk
https://weather.com/weather/tenday/l...97c60a34f93ac1

Markus

[Dargo]

Originally Posted by mapuc

The weather forecast for East Ukraine next week is...rain...rain..and rain...(someone mentioned this in a stream) So I checked it

Donbass
https://www.worldweatheronline.com/n...oblast/ua.aspx

Luhansk
https://weather.com/weather/tenday/l...97c60a34f93ac1

Markus

New attack will come after weather clears up, so Ukraine have some time to get supplies to the fronts.

[mapuc]

Originally Posted by Dargo

New attack will come after weather clears up, so Ukraine have some time to get supplies to the fronts.

The Russian don't they have long range artillery and missiles they can use in bad weather ?

Markus

[Dargo]

Originally Posted by mapuc

The Russian don't they have long range artillery and missiles they can use in bad weather ?

Markus

Sure, but those only destroy, not occupy you need ground forces to gain terrain

[Dargo]

Russia has relatively few troops to call on, so Battalion Tactical Groups are a way of creating a fighting unit with lots of punch. They're designed to attack quickly with lots of firepower. However, they have very little protection in terms of infantry personnel to escort them and to retaliate if the armored column comes under attack.

That makes the Russian army like a boxer who has a great right hook and a glass jaw. A lack of Russian air patrols means Ukrainian troops have found it easy to get into positions to ambush Russian tank columns. That means Ukrainian troops have been able to get into good fire positions for ambushes, and they have been able to do a lot of damage this way.

What's worse, Russia severely overestimated its own capabilities. These included the effectiveness of its own air force, the required quantity and reliability of its standoff weaponry, the quality and resolve of its ground forces, and especially the logistics necessary to support them beyond a single opening blitz. Even the Russian military's ability to deploy realistic planning and effective command and control seemed to disintegrate just days into the invasion. There still appears to be little integration or deconfliction between various field commanders and no single commander leading the war effort.

Even if Russia achieves its military objectives in Ukraine, at great cost in blood and treasure, what comes next is a no-win situation. And once the Ukrainian populace largely blends in with the occupying force, all the artillery or combat aircraft in the world cannot pacify the enemy. They are both nowhere and everywhere at the same time.

While Russia still may win its war to conquer Ukraine's territory, it has already lost in pretty much every manner conceivable. There is no positive endgame here. Those losses will only grow deeper and more permanent with each passing day that this phony war that should never have happened in the first place grinds on.

[Gorpet]

Originally Posted by Catfish

The Germany of 1933 comes to mind, or the Russia of (openly) 2022.
They had/have their own ideas and one part of this idea is to export their culture and ideas to other people and countries, if the latter want it or not.
So you say the US is the same.
I'd say there was a reason why America went in at those times, for real or perceived threats, sometimes even with the intention to help.
When people want to live like in medieval times, plague, torture and all it their decision, ok.
But if the people don't want that and only one sh!tty dictator wants it so, what then?

All it brings is "chaos"? I guess the idea of freedom, personal development and individuality, adding medicine, health care and retirement plans is something to be avoided at all costs?

My heart bleeds, you have it so bad in the US.

Well you should hop on a plane and get here and see America for yourself.
Oh and this,"the idea of freedom, personal development and individuality, adding medicine, health care and retirement plans is something to be avoided at all costs" Yes this is exactly what our politician's just like yours want to avoid, War is a great distraction and it's doing a damn good job. Don't you agree? For as smart as you seem to be,you haven't figured it out Political Dynasties across this planet move at their own pace and that's why nothing changes. But now that the American Fascist, A new political philosophy, and party movement,that will require a two party merger that will emerge with a new One party above the individual and that party will stand for a centralized autocratic government that will require forcible suppression of all opposition.

[Gorpet]

Originally Posted by Catfish

The Germany of 1933 comes to mind, or the Russia of (openly) 2022.
They had/have their own ideas and one part of this idea is to export their culture and ideas to other people and countries, if the latter want it or not.
So you say the US is the same.
I'd say there was a reason why America went in at those times, for real or perceived threats, sometimes even with the intention to help.
When people want to live like in medieval times, plague, torture and all it their decision, ok.
But if the people don't want that and only one sh!tty dictator wants it so, what then?

All it brings is "chaos"? I guess the idea of freedom, personal development and individuality, adding medicine, health care and retirement plans is something to be avoided at all costs?

My heart bleeds, you have it so bad in the US.

Originally Posted by Dargo

Russia has relatively few troops to call on, so Battalion Tactical Groups are a way of creating a fighting unit with lots of punch. They're designed to attack quickly with lots of firepower. However, they have very little protection in terms of infantry personnel to escort them and to retaliate if the armored column comes under attack.

That makes the Russian army like a boxer who has a great right hook and a glass jaw. A lack of Russian air patrols means Ukrainian troops have found it easy to get into positions to ambush Russian tank columns. That means Ukrainian troops have been able to get into good fire positions for ambushes, and they have been able to do a lot of damage this way.

What's worse, Russia severely overestimated its own capabilities. These included the effectiveness of its own air force, the required quantity and reliability of its standoff weaponry, the quality and resolve of its ground forces, and especially the logistics necessary to support them beyond a single opening blitz. Even the Russian military's ability to deploy realistic planning and effective command and control seemed to disintegrate just days into the invasion. There still appears to be little integration or deconfliction between various field commanders and no single commander leading the war effort.

Even if Russia achieves its military objectives in Ukraine, at great cost in blood and treasure, what comes next is a no-win situation. And once the Ukrainian populace largely blends in with the occupying force, all the artillery or combat aircraft in the world cannot pacify the enemy. They are both nowhere and everywhere at the same time.

While Russia still may win its war to conquer Ukraine's territory, it has already lost in pretty much every manner conceivable. There is no positive endgame here. Those losses will only grow deeper and more permanent with each passing day that this phony war that should never have happened in the first place grinds on.

My friend, Here is a great example why citizens of every country should have term limits and financial investigations of their leaders and their family's.

[Gorpet]

Originally Posted by Buddahaid

Re. Gorpet's comment. Why do you defend Putin? Ukraine did not start the war and would have been perfectly happy without it but Putin has grand plans and control over what media your average Ivan gets. Freedom of the press to confront and ridicule the state, while often being misused and abused, is still light years ahead of state controlled media.

I'll fix this for you.
Hell ya, who gives a shtt what the Ukrainian people think. I just can't believe Russia and its people wholeheartedly believe what they see on state controlled Russian media.

Look this damn war would not have started if NATO would have made it clear to Ukraine it could not become a member.If they wanted to join the EU in trade agreement's fine. Russia does not want NATO on it's border.
The United States almost went to nuclear war in 1968 because Russia and the free Cuban government became friends. Now what the funk is the difference. If they don't want NATO in their backyard allowing American Warships into the Black Sea.
I'm sorry i don't see a difference. This is a European problem let European NATO deal with it. For one time let the world see Europe stand on it's own feet and deal with it's problems without American politician's getting involved. Nothing good for people around this planet happens when the American's get involved. That time has been long gone and over.

[Gorpet]

Originally Posted by August

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/p...t-joining-nato

If we could just get Mongolia to join NATO,Wouldn't that be a surprise? i'm sure the Chinese would not mind. Hey we could bring our best weapons and park them right in their back door. And bring Freedom and Democracy and the Western World to the Mongolian desert. S*HT we could show the Ruling Families pictures of Las Vegas Nevada and how could they resist the Glamour and Glory of that?

[tmccarthy]

[tmccarthy]

18+ Mariupol Residents Expose War Crimes & Show Dead Ukraine Soldiers - Patrick Lancaster, Apr 14, 2022

[Gorpet]

Originally Posted by Buddahaid

My country is your country. Since you keep making out as if it isn't tells me you are one of those that think a revolution is in order. Very bad idea if you think that would make anything better.

I don't think a revolution will be anytime soon.When the 80 some million people who voted for Joey and the Democrat's feel it in their pockets they will already be down to the animal troughs to eat. It's coming and remember this not every ant will be chosen to serve or live.
Only the select soldier ant's and they were selected by the ballots they mailed home from the battle ground. And if your not one of them sworn.You asshat you are really going to find out what the future holds for you.
And it's not a trip to the Moon or Mars but a beautiful colored Mushroom. The reality is the people you have entrusted your life and the lives of your family to. Live in a reality you will never set foot in but you pay for it. And all of us across this planet we accept this it's the way it's been forever. And now to hold power the Elite families of Ukraine a country and its people must die. And only then will you see how the real world works.You see every Politician they are not getting concerned they act like they are not worried about a damn thing.

I don't know everything but believe this the, Dinosaurs and their family's must go and their family's must be Investigated and then we will see. If we have eyes to see with LOL.Did i not see Boris over in the battle zone in a suit and tie and Zlysinky in battle armour surrounded by his family in crisp battle armour Those family members really intimidated me and i was in the USA.The American President is to fragile to leave the country. But he looks good in those dark aviator sun glasses from Top Gun. And where in the hell is the President of the United Nations ? See what i mean, They say Putin is off his rocker well let's have Putin and Joe have a free-for-all in the English house of Commons.

[Gorpet]

Originally Posted by Commander Wallace

I agree with you. China should be " painted " with the same brush as Russia. Russia to varying degrees avoids sanctions by essentially " laundering " it's currency thorough Chines banking institutions. China is helping to prop Russia up right now. " Birds of a feather ".....

Sorry for the late reply,The Birds are the Beautiful People who can JetSet. And it's a Global Pandemic they live in the clouds. And i have not heard of one of them or their families getting this Chinese lung virus. If you really want to look whos laundering money. Take a look at British Islands just East of the coast of the USA. Google i can't see a home on those Island's that doesn't have a swimming pool. And they have an Ocean around them. And they are Uglier looking than a coal miner.They have picked up Epstein's slack. And nothing slows down for the cloud riders.

[Buddahaid]

Originally Posted by Gorpet

Look this damn war would not have started if NATO would have made it clear to Ukraine it could not become a member.If they wanted to join the EU in trade agreement's fine. Russia does not want NATO on it's border.
The United States almost went to nuclear war in 1968 because Russia and the free Cuban government became friends. Now what the funk is the difference. If they don't want NATO in their backyard allowing American Warships into the Black Sea.
I'm sorry i don't see a difference. This is a European problem let European NATO deal with it. For one time let the world see Europe stand on it's own feet and deal with it's problems without American politician's getting involved. Nothing good for people around this planet happens when the American's get involved. That time has been long gone and over.

Yes Putin doesn't want NATO in his backyard because he made it clear that he intended to bring all of the former Soviet states under Russian control again whether they like it or not. Those states then began seeking NATO membership to remain independent. Oops sorry Georgia too late, oh and sorry southeastern Ukraine too late. You call this western aggression but give the war criminals a free pass.

[Gorpet]

Originally Posted by Skybird

He said pretty clear in words that he wants the Warsaw Pact satellites back and gives them no right to have their own will in this. Russia wants a belt of states that are dampening the influx of the hostile evil West that since always threatens Russia and wants to attack and destroy it. Serious. This Russian paranoia is older than the world wars. Its their eternal mental handicap.

Here in America it's the mentally paranoid that's running the country right now. And what will happen to the planet when Two mentally handicap countries collide ? I think it will be the greatest firework show and the last the world will ever see. In my old age i think this planet needs a reset. Starting with sticks and stones again would be a good thing.Mother earth would get a different start but a fresh start.She would be better off without humans.Sea life then could have a chance.