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12-10-21, 11:42 AM | #9466 |
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On German TV channel ARD + FOCUS writes:
------------------------ Virologist Christian Drosten [a leading voice among Germany's virologists, Skybird] was a guest on the ARD “Tagesthemen” on Thursday evening. He spoke to moderator Ingo Zamperoni about the new Omikron variant and its effects. Drosten emphasized that Omikron could be particularly dangerous for the unvaccinated. That is why, in addition to the fast booster, it is so important that all unprotected people "sit down" again to think again. At the end of the interview, Zamperoni asked him whether we should expect more mutants and when Corona would finally become a normal cold. Drosten explains: “Yes, that is an important question that you are asking. Mainly because there are now people again who say, 'It never ends anyway. Once you're on the train, you can't get down there ‘. This is really nonsense. We are on our way to an endemic state. So this virus will become a normal cold virus. " This occurs especially in kindergarten, the adults would get infected from time to time and the older ones would have to make sure that they protect themselves with vaccinations in winter. Drosten says he cannot promise that this will be the case as early as next year. But populations like in South Africa that are already fully immunized would soon come into this state. The virologist continues: “I don't know whether already with Omikron or whether with a next variant. But that will stop. We will come to a state where we only refresh towards winter and probably not the whole population. It may be that we will have to replenish the whole population with a new vaccine in the winter next year. This is fortune telling, which we are slowly doing here, but I think what is not fortune telling is that it will stop - anytime soon. Next year, the year after next, maybe in three years. But then it's over. " --------------------------- And in essence this is what science and virologists say since quite some time now, since somewhere in the middle of last year. No real surprises in there.
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12-10-21, 02:14 PM | #9467 |
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This Omicron is definitely more contagious than the Delta.
Yesterday Thursday the Danish health authorities found 796 with this variant. Today Friday they found 1280 cases with this Omicron. Not even Delta had this huge spreading so quick. Markus
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12-10-21, 06:06 PM | #9468 | |
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Let's see then: Merriam-Webster about immunity: https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/immunity Merriam-Webster about vaccines: https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/vaccine CDC about immunity: https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/vac-gen/immunity-types.htm Immunity stems from the latin word "immunis" - excempt. Immunity in its basic, original sense means "you cannot be harmed at all". That's never the case with vaccines, never was, never will be. In the watered-down version immunity means "a certain resistance/protection". That's something vaccines offer, to a varying degree depending on the disease and the vaccine. A vaccine never offers lifelong, complete immunity. A vaccination never guarantees that the vaccinated person will never get the disease the vaccine is against. Vaccines prepare the immune system to deal with an infection so that it can react quickly once the virus shows up, which in turn means that the virus can ideally be dealt with long before the infection has serious consequences. But this protection is not perfect, because everyone's immune system reacts differently, because some viruses can cause damage before the immune systems reaction kicks in or for a number of other reasons. Also the protection is reduced over time. The immune system stores virus information in special cells, and over time these cells die off. In some cases (some children's diseases like chickenpox) the immune system produces so many cells with the virus information that some of them will be around till the end of your life, which means that the immune system will have a way to quickly react at any point in your life. Whenever you are reinfected with chickenpox, your body will quickly react to it - but you still can be infected. |
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12-11-21, 07:32 AM | #9470 |
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12-11-21, 07:33 AM | #9471 |
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Cov-2 will be here as any other virus that ever was. Not one virus that ever was has been completely "eliminated", it does not work this way. It is about keping down the NUMBERS.
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12-11-21, 04:19 PM | #9475 |
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Yet the numbers have not gone down. From what I see covid vaccines have not shown much effectiveness at all at either stopping the spread or lowering the death rate They certainly cannot be compared to an actually effective vaccine like the one for Smallpox for example. How many booster shots do we need of that to prevent subsequent infection? None because that is a real vaccine, not this fake government sponsored crap they are trying to force down everyones throats.
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12-11-21, 04:23 PM | #9476 |
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A Danish news paper had a story from Michigan where some Chief Physician should have said.
- Never has so many died since the beginning of this year. 289 have died with Covid-19. 75% of these was either non vaccinated or got their second jab more than 6 month ago. Markus
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Again, from the age before, for those who are slow in their heads or had too much dope when they were young:
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The vaccines work. Thats not an issue of opinion or assumption or guessing - thats an issue of either beign capable to do the math correctly, or not.
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That would be a worrying number if the vaccination rate was at 50%, which it isn't. It is much higher, so the total number of vaccinated people vastly surpasses the number of unvaccinated people. Taking everything into account it's about eight to nine times as likely for an unvaccinated person to end up in ITS compared to a vaccinated person. Things will get even worse for the unvaccinated if you split the cases into different age groups. While it's about a one to four ratio for people older than 80 it's already a one to ten ratio for people aged 60-70 and a one to 20 ratio for people aged 45-50. Below that age overall ITS numbers get too small to make definite conclusions, but there's a clear indication that the numbers are not going down. And again: breakthroughs are to be expected. Vaccines aren't an impenetrable defense, and nobody who understands how vaccines work would claim they were. |
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