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11-03-21, 04:03 PM | #9091 | |
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Also some of both the vaccinated and non-vaccinated in the group may have natural immunity but since the powers that be don't want to track or test for that we don't know how many (if any at all) of your 200 will have already had the disease at some point and that will also affect the numbers.
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11-03-21, 04:23 PM | #9092 |
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Approximately 4 of the 200 infected people will die, depending on what part of the world you live in. If they live in the U.S. 2-3 people will die, if they live in Bosnia-Herzegovina, 8 or 9 will die.
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11-03-21, 04:25 PM | #9093 |
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What is the death level you would find unacceptable? Does that fluctuate with direct proximity?
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11-03-21, 05:55 PM | #9094 |
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And its not just the death level. Its Long Covid. Years-later appearing mortality implications. Flooding of ICU stations. Fallout from that regarding generla health service provision and delayed medical and surgical treatments. Personnel not able to work and business fallout from that.
The fixiation on death rate alone still is inconsistent in itself. And beyond that just one part of the many, many implications. A rat tail of implications, a rat tail with many, many ends. Covid 19 is the third-most lethal mass pandemic of modern history (after AIDS and the Spanish Flu). Current official lethality is calculated at around 2.2%. Globally, officailly counted numbers read 5 million. The WHO estimates the real number is 2 - 3.5 times as high. 2009 the swine flu was the to-see event. Officially 18500 people died. The Lancet later reported that the real death number must have been between 151.700 and 575.400. A hypothetical exmaple. Lets assume the swine flu caused the average between the minimum and maximum the Lancet reported, that would be around 363,000. We end roughly with a result that is 19 times higher than the official number. Lets assume that to be a reasonable factor to be applied to the official Covid death count. And you have 95 million dead. I dont say it was this bad, becasue I simpyl do not know. But the Lancet showed back then reaoisnable arugments why the offiocial numbers have been dramatzically underestmated. And most dying today takes place in the third world with its under-optimised health systems and monitoring systems. And there is polticla will to not klet govenrment appear to be helpless idiots who could not do nothing, there is political will to not let numbers appear to be too high. I am certain of onyl one thing, however: the real death toll is several times as high than the official counting. And whether the factor is 9 or 19 - is that really a difference from a moral point of view?
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irrelevant, it is what it is, and no mask, vaccine, or social distancing mandate is going to put this genie back in the bottle. The powers that be need to realize that and move on.
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Not that my perspective should make a dent on yours.
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The first pill designed to treat symptomatic Covid has been approved by the UK medicines regulator.
The tablet - molnupiravir - will be given twice a day to vulnerable patients recently diagnosed with the disease. In clinical trials the pill, originally developed to treat flu, cut the risk of hospitalisation or death by about half. Health secretary Sajid Javid said the treatment was a "gamechanger" for the most frail and immunosuppressed. In a statement he said: "Today is a historic day for our country, as the UK is now the first country in the world to approve an antiviral that can be taken at home for Covid." https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-59163899
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Since we seem stalemated on the subject I should just silently SMH the next thousand or so times you remind everyone here that the percentages are acceptable yet the measures being taken are not.
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That is good news, Jim. Honestly, it appeared everyone's hat was being placed on a vaccine only. The need for development of a drug after the fact of contracting COVID was not even a thought. Now it is! Wonderful! Thanks for posting!
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11-04-21, 10:26 AM | #9104 |
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I really don't know how you reached that conclusion. Obviously a vaccine would the the first line defense to mitigate the virus and improved treatment would be the logical follow-up. I've never seen anyone suggest otherwise. What I have seen is the efficacy of some 'treatments' (drugs used for other ailments/species) questioned.
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11-04-21, 10:34 AM | #9105 |
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Licking rats....I think I just burped up some chunky stuff reading that.
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