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01-27-21, 06:46 AM | #1 | |
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The First Soviet Nuclear Submarines
by Blair Shaw. Hmmm... that sounds familiar.
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01-27-21, 07:38 PM | #2 |
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Thanks neal appreciate it
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01-28-21, 01:01 PM | #3 |
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Long read, but interesting for sure at least to those that don't have top secret clearances.
This information was available in real time ... Sonar has two modes active and passive ... ASW ships use active and submarines use passive. The active ping can't tell you what country your ship may have located, but passive sonar can. From what I have heard whenever a Russia submarine located a USN submarine they would use a tactic called 'chicken dance' and steer straight for it without any data (in the 60's) to tell what depth the other boat was at. That's how they got the name 'chicken dance' ... the first one that moved was the chicken. If the Russians couldn't figure out how to dispose of a nuclear submarine ... How were they smart enough to know how to build one? Thank God we never had a war to figure out which side was better
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01-31-21, 09:59 AM | #4 |
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Think all sides in the beginning it was a suck it and see job, the USN didn't plan for disposal neither did the British or French and that's the legacy were all facing today however, arguably the Russians and Americans have it down to a art while the UK and France struggles with it.
Since the end of the cold war Russia had to dispose of something like 400 submarines and right now they have actually completed nearly all of them, there's a few that remain which came out of service in the 2000's.
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06-01-21, 09:47 PM | #5 |
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Frankly, the Soviets first efforts in the November class were probably better than America's first. The Nautilus was noisy underwater and couldn't sustain full speed of 20 knots. The Albacore hull design of later submarines had to be mated up to nuclear propulsion to really make a winning submarine platform.
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06-05-21, 09:39 PM | #6 | |
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I agree nautilus had limitations i think its fair to say all the first generation boats did but what nautilus achieved in the early years was remarkable. as for noise the November was no better in fact probably just as noisy if not louder than nautilus especially when pushing 30 knots. overall the quality even in the nautilus I would say was superior to the Novembers and not just the build but sensor technology too something the Russians didn't pick up until the late 1970's with the victor III Indeed the albacore plus a reactor made for the winning formula definitely
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06-06-21, 10:33 AM | #7 |
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Perhaps we fight a war and perhaps we won't, but we have already won being ready
Wrecked Submarines, Vladivostok, Russia Stripped down wrecks of what appear to be Foxtrot-class submarines lie trapped in the ice outside the naval base at Vladivostok. The Foxtrot-class were diesel-electric powered submarines designed to hunt NATO vessels. The first Foxtrot-class submarine was commissioned in 1958 and could remain submerged for up to five days with a crew of 78.
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06-06-21, 11:50 AM | #8 |
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With that 'tude, perhaps we should name our next submersible: USS Parabellum!
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06-06-21, 12:53 PM | #9 | |
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I did a write up of the Foxtrot which i went to in Belgium which has since been scrapped https://www.navygeneralboard.com/a-c...ass-submarine/
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06-06-21, 07:11 PM | #10 | |
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John Wick: Chapter 3 – Parabellum On TV soon All times are in Pacific Time Date Channel Thu, 6/17, 10 PM SyFy Fri, 6/18, 7:05 PM SyFy
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06-07-21, 05:59 AM | #11 |
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Crackin stuff Blair
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06-14-21, 10:03 AM | #12 |
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Thanks Jim
Got a lot more to do, i do one a month usually so plenty more to come.
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06-14-21, 01:42 PM | #13 |
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Nice one
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