New Campaign Focused on Realism

NavyGuy570 · 11-26-20, 01:17 PM

Great mod, it adds a lot of flavor to the campaign. The 1984 campaign gets old after a while. I know I'm gonna sound like a broken record, but according to one of my books, the Romeo, Kanin, Sverdlov, and Kazbek where all retired by 1990. It is also interesting to note, a couple Yankee's (both the SSGN and SSBN versions), and a couple Whiskey's, where still in service at the time. But honestly I'm not sure if there would be enough to really make an appearance. Just a couple thoughts, but very nice work!

GSmith63 · 11-27-20, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by NavyGuy570

Great mod, it adds a lot of flavor to the campaign. The 1984 campaign gets old after a while. I know I'm gonna sound like a broken record, but according to one of my books, the Romeo, Kanin, Sverdlov, and Kazbek where all retired by 1990. It is also interesting to note, a couple Yankee's (both the SSGN and SSBN versions), and a couple Whiskey's, where still in service at the time. But honestly I'm not sure if there would be enough to really make an appearance. Just a couple thoughts, but very nice work!

Thanks NavyGuy! The overall goal was to simulate the attrition of front line Red units over the course of the war. But yeah, I agree that those older units were largely out of service, although many of them had not yet been scrapped. My thought was that they would have been quickly pressed back into service to replace front-line units that had been damaged or sunk. In the campaign timeline the Soviets had nearly three months to prepare before the beginning of hostilities, so the re-activations could have started early.

With that said, I'll also be the first to admit that I'm not sure if my line of reasoning is brilliant conjecture or self-serving rationalization!

NavyGuy570 · 11-27-20, 04:00 PM

I mean, it definitely makes sense to do that, I know I would. But at that point in time, most of the older units where being retired faster than they could be scrapped. Now days if you go onto Google Earth for example, you can see that they where actually scuttling units in mass, the majority of them being older subs. I mean, you could reactivate a scuttled sub, but faced with the economical situation at the time, I don't know if it would really be feasible. I also think the majority of the older surface units where sold for scrap to western nations. In the late 1980's, a Kanin sunk off Norway on its way to the breakers, and the majority of the Sverdlov's where actually retired in the 70-80's. Just a couple of thoughts. Sorry, I know I sound like a jerk.

GSmith63 · 11-27-20, 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by NavyGuy570

I mean, it definitely makes sense to do that, I know I would. But at that point in time, most of the older units where being retired faster than they could be scrapped. Now days if you go onto Google Earth for example, you can see that they where actually scuttling units in mass, the majority of them being older subs. I mean, you could reactivate a scuttled sub, but faced with the economical situation at the time, I don't know if it would really be feasible. I also think the majority of the older surface units where sold for scrap to western nations. In the late 1980's, a Kanin sunk off Norway on its way to the breakers, and the majority of the Sverdlov's where actually retired in the 70-80's. Just a couple of thoughts. Sorry, I know I sound like a jerk.

No problem Navy Guy - I'm a big fan of constructive criticism. No one ever got better by listening only to praise.

steel shark · 12-02-20, 11:20 AM

yes i couldn't agree more

show me a person who,s never made a mistake & Ill show you a person that has never made ANYTHING !!!

Steel Shark

GSmith63 · 03-04-21, 11:52 PM

Update 4a for the North Atlantic 1990 Realism Mod has been released. Mostly minor tweaks this time, including:

* Modified Land Strike missions to make the amount and type enemy activity near the launch basket much more variable.

* Modified SS Wolfpack missions to increase the number of enemy subs encountered, especially early in the conflict.

* Corrected the language in some ASUW mission orders and eliminated some contradictory information.

* Added one knot to the max speed to the Sturgeon class so that it is capable of performing knuckle maneuvers.

* Added additional artwork for "mission end" screens.

The update can be found here: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1D47...ew?usp=sharing

Enjoy!

steel shark · 03-12-21, 06:19 PM

thanks ill have a go on this it will be nise to play something ive not actually made for once

Steel Shark

12-02-20, 11:20 AM	#5
steel shark XO Join Date: Oct 2019 Location: Uk Posts: 414 Downloads: 48 Uploads: 5	very true yes i couldn't agree more show me a person who,s never made a mistake & Ill show you a person that has never made ANYTHING !!! Steel Shark __________________ "History is Written by the Victors."

03-04-21, 11:52 PM	#6
GSmith63 Sailor man Join Date: Nov 2017 Posts: 48 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	Update 4a Update 4a for the North Atlantic 1990 Realism Mod has been released. Mostly minor tweaks this time, including: * Modified Land Strike missions to make the amount and type enemy activity near the launch basket much more variable. * Modified SS Wolfpack missions to increase the number of enemy subs encountered, especially early in the conflict. * Corrected the language in some ASUW mission orders and eliminated some contradictory information. * Added one knot to the max speed to the Sturgeon class so that it is capable of performing knuckle maneuvers. * Added additional artwork for "mission end" screens. The update can be found here: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1D47...ew?usp=sharing Enjoy!

03-12-21, 06:19 PM	#7
steel shark XO Join Date: Oct 2019 Location: Uk Posts: 414 Downloads: 48 Uploads: 5	ill try this out thanks ill have a go on this it will be nise to play something ive not actually made for once Steel Shark __________________ "History is Written by the Victors."

11-26-20, 01:17 PM	#1
NavyGuy570 Seaman Join Date: Sep 2020 Posts: 38 Downloads: 6 Uploads: 0	Great mod, it adds a lot of flavor to the campaign. The 1984 campaign gets old after a while. I know I'm gonna sound like a broken record, but according to one of my books, the Romeo, Kanin, Sverdlov, and Kazbek where all retired by 1990. It is also interesting to note, a couple Yankee's (both the SSGN and SSBN versions), and a couple Whiskey's, where still in service at the time. But honestly I'm not sure if there would be enough to really make an appearance. Just a couple thoughts, but very nice work!

11-27-20, 04:00 PM	#3
NavyGuy570 Seaman Join Date: Sep 2020 Posts: 38 Downloads: 6 Uploads: 0	I mean, it definitely makes sense to do that, I know I would. But at that point in time, most of the older units where being retired faster than they could be scrapped. Now days if you go onto Google Earth for example, you can see that they where actually scuttling units in mass, the majority of them being older subs. I mean, you could reactivate a scuttled sub, but faced with the economical situation at the time, I don't know if it would really be feasible. I also think the majority of the older surface units where sold for scrap to western nations. In the late 1980's, a Kanin sunk off Norway on its way to the breakers, and the majority of the Sverdlov's where actually retired in the 70-80's. Just a couple of thoughts. Sorry, I know I sound like a jerk.