DSubs - abstract multiplayer subsim

xnonix · 10-25-20, 12:01 PM

Hi Boris,

1. I have your "crash to desktop" report:
https://ibb.co/T08zqkx
This always happens when dropping a contact...
When I played on linux never happened to me.

2. I had another issue: When I reload decoys, imaging I marked "active", but the sim reload a passive one. I repeated the process and the same ocurred. Just for you to know.

3. Another isue is the panning hangs sometimes at the start of the game. I have to open another window and play on that one.

4. About the game today:
Nice game today. 8 kills hard to get. I was focusing on sub targets.
I have been playing with torps speed as well and now I understand them
better.
Also, I didn't use trackers. Just marking all what I considered interesting in BB and merge acordingly in tactical view. Makes all less cluttered and error proof.
I saw you spawning and marked your ping with towed array and bow sonar. Triangulated you. Then you shoot the torpedo and marked the launch. I had the solution and 5 seconds later my torp was in the way to your sub.

Was a great game.

Thanks again for dsubs.

Regards

Boris-Barboris · 10-25-20, 12:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xnonix

Hi Boris,

1. I have your "crash to desktop" report:
https://ibb.co/T08zqkx
This always happens when dropping a contact...
When I played on linux never happened to me.

2. I had another issue: When I reload decoys, imaging I marked "active", but the sim reload a passive one. I repeated the process and the same ocurred. Just for you to know.

3. Another isue is the panning hangs sometimes at the start of the game. I have to open another window and play on that one.

4. About the game today:
Nice game today. 8 kills hard to get. I was focusing on sub targets.
I have been playing with torps speed as well and now I understand them
better.
Also, I didn't use trackers. Just marking all what I considered interesting in BB and merge acordingly in tactical view. Makes all less cluttered and error proof.
I saw you spawning and marked your ping with towed array and bow sonar. Triangulated you. Then you shoot the torpedo and marked the launch. I had the solution and 5 seconds later my torp was in the way to your sub.

Was a great game.

Thanks again for dsubs.

Regards

1. Damn... Good to narrow down to AccessViolation, but the trace is quite broad still. I'll try to reproduce on windows some more. Thanks.

2. When you killed me today, I noticed it too, because this bug killed me: i couldn't drop enough actives. Already have a fix, will release soon.

3. probably related to 1, something is wrong in windows binary.

4. Yeah, you are very proficient already, warms my heart ).

Boris-Barboris · 10-25-20, 04:03 PM

Try the x64 windows build, please:

https://github.com/Boris-Barboris/ds...ses/tag/v0.2.2

Added ray data dragging, but only horizontally. Time is still anchored, because otherwise it's hard to hit a moving (waterfall flows down) target.

xnonix · 10-26-20, 05:43 AM

Hi Boris,
I have been testing the 0.2.2 version of dsubs:

1. I can confirm the "crash to desktop" on dropping targets in linux.

2. Trackers samples dragable is a nice add. Thank you.

3. When I merge trackers from bow and towed array contacts, error lines are cluttered all over bearing lines and Is hard to find the solution (normally is not a clear pattern). But if I do it manually, marking the sample on BB and rapidly on bow, merging the contacts I have a nice and clear cross of lines. Normally with 3 manual marks on BB and Towed I have a pretty good and "clear" solution . I think trackers induce some kind of bearing error. Also think that trackers shouldn't lose its source as I said in a previous post. With trackers is all more difficult, so I preefer not make use of them.
Example:
This is how the error lines appear with trackers:
Cluttering

This is how the error lines appear with manual markers:
Clear solution

Almost the same amount of time passed between 2 solutions. With manual markers I'm confident of the solution only with 2 or 3 crossings.

4. Single player scenarios ideas. Problably you have thought deeply on this, but anyway I'll put what I would like here:
a) "Thread the needle": Scenario with x traders, y easy subs and z medium subs ramdomly placed. You have to kill the enemy subs. Traders can't be sunk. If you sunk a trader you lose. If you kill all the subs, you win. x, y and z could be selectable by the player.
b) "Hunger games": like the above but you have 0 torps at the start of the game. You have to reload at the circle first.
c) "Devil on screws": Scenario with x traders, y easy subs and z medium subs ramdomly placed. You have to kill the traders and go to the circle to win. You can take the subs too, but not needed.

I don't know how to thank you enogh for dsubs. I'm loving it. Great work again. Hope feedback helps.

Regards.

Boris-Barboris · 10-26-20, 06:54 AM

Looks like your computer fails to set up antialiasing on Linux.
That's how lines look on my PC:

https://imgur.com/a/0Y3uTBq

What are your windows/linux pc specs? Is this Wayland or Xorg?

xnonix · 10-26-20, 07:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boris-Barboris

Looks like your computer fails to set up antialiasing on Linux.
That's how lines look on my PC:

https://imgur.com/a/0Y3uTBq

What are your windows/linux pc specs? Is this Wayland or Xorg?

I use Windows 10 in my main gaming pc: I5 with nvidia gtx1060.

I have linux on all my other computers: the one wich takes the images is a dell ispiron 1545 quite old. Graphic card is "Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller". No wayland running. So Xorg.

Boris-Barboris · 10-26-20, 08:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xnonix

I use Windows 10 in my main gaming pc: I5 with nvidia gtx1060.

I have linux on all my other computers: the one wich takes the images is a dell ispiron 1545 quite old. Graphic card is "Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller". No wayland running. So Xorg.

Ok, try this one, I have reproduced at least one crash on contact drop, it's probably what you have:
https://github.com/Boris-Barboris/ds...ses/tag/v0.2.3

I'll think what can be done for integrated gpu. Nothing comes to mind at this point.

10-26-20, 05:43 AM	#4
xnonix Watch Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 17 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	Hi Boris, I have been testing the 0.2.2 version of dsubs: 1. I can confirm the "crash to desktop" on dropping targets in linux. 2. Trackers samples dragable is a nice add. Thank you. 3. When I merge trackers from bow and towed array contacts, error lines are cluttered all over bearing lines and Is hard to find the solution (normally is not a clear pattern). But if I do it manually, marking the sample on BB and rapidly on bow, merging the contacts I have a nice and clear cross of lines. Normally with 3 manual marks on BB and Towed I have a pretty good and "clear" solution . I think trackers induce some kind of bearing error. Also think that trackers shouldn't lose its source as I said in a previous post. With trackers is all more difficult, so I preefer not make use of them. Example: This is how the error lines appear with trackers: Cluttering This is how the error lines appear with manual markers: Clear solution Almost the same amount of time passed between 2 solutions. With manual markers I'm confident of the solution only with 2 or 3 crossings. 4. Single player scenarios ideas. Problably you have thought deeply on this, but anyway I'll put what I would like here: a) "Thread the needle": Scenario with x traders, y easy subs and z medium subs ramdomly placed. You have to kill the enemy subs. Traders can't be sunk. If you sunk a trader you lose. If you kill all the subs, you win. x, y and z could be selectable by the player. b) "Hunger games": like the above but you have 0 torps at the start of the game. You have to reload at the circle first. c) "Devil on screws": Scenario with x traders, y easy subs and z medium subs ramdomly placed. You have to kill the traders and go to the circle to win. You can take the subs too, but not needed. I don't know how to thank you enogh for dsubs. I'm loving it. Great work again. Hope feedback helps. Regards. Last edited by xnonix; 10-26-20 at 07:16 AM.

10-25-20, 12:01 PM	#1
xnonix Watch Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 17 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	Hi Boris, 1. I have your "crash to desktop" report: https://ibb.co/T08zqkx This always happens when dropping a contact... When I played on linux never happened to me. 2. I had another issue: When I reload decoys, imaging I marked "active", but the sim reload a passive one. I repeated the process and the same ocurred. Just for you to know. 3. Another isue is the panning hangs sometimes at the start of the game. I have to open another window and play on that one. 4. About the game today: Nice game today. 8 kills hard to get. I was focusing on sub targets. I have been playing with torps speed as well and now I understand them better. Also, I didn't use trackers. Just marking all what I considered interesting in BB and merge acordingly in tactical view. Makes all less cluttered and error proof. I saw you spawning and marked your ping with towed array and bow sonar. Triangulated you. Then you shoot the torpedo and marked the launch. I had the solution and 5 seconds later my torp was in the way to your sub. Was a great game. Thanks again for dsubs. Regards

10-25-20, 04:03 PM	#3
Boris-Barboris Mate Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Moscow Posts: 56 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Try the x64 windows build, please: https://github.com/Boris-Barboris/ds...ses/tag/v0.2.2 Added ray data dragging, but only horizontally. Time is still anchored, because otherwise it's hard to hit a moving (waterfall flows down) target.

10-26-20, 06:54 AM	#5
Boris-Barboris Mate Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Moscow Posts: 56 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Looks like your computer fails to set up antialiasing on Linux. That's how lines look on my PC: https://imgur.com/a/0Y3uTBq What are your windows/linux pc specs? Is this Wayland or Xorg?