The future of europe?/Islam threads (Merged) - Page 2

The Avon Lady · 06-14-06, 05:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Skybird

If you want to do a structural comparion of scriptures in Islam and christianity

I had originally assumed he wanted to compare Islam to Judaism but after his "condum" remarks, anything goes!

scandium · 06-14-06, 06:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Skybird

I wonder what the Old Testament should have to do with all this. Christian acting refers to the Christ - who by his own life alone became the founding figure of "Christianity", before him their was no idea of a christian religion at all, there only was Judaism. A christianity referring to the OT is not Christian at all, in the meaning of the word. I tend to understand these constant references to the OT as attempts to put things into politically correct relations and make it seem that Islam compares to Jesus' teachings (these are the only true Christian message there is, necessarily and as expressed in the word "Christian", anything else is church and politics only), and that Islam is as harmless. It does not compare, in any way. If you want to do a structural comparion of scriptures in Islam and christianity, than only the message of Jesus is truly representative for Islam, and the Koran as it should have been dicated by Muhammad is representative for Islam. I do not see what Islamic scripture could compare to the role that the Old Testament plays.

Skybird, Christianity is based on both the Old and New Testament. The New Testament may be what makes it distinct from Judaism, but all mainstream Christian faiths base their teaching on both books.

The current "Intelligent Design" debate in the US, for instance, is based on Genesis which is from the Old Testament. The Ten Commandments that prescribe how a faithful Christian should conduct their lives are also from the Old Testament.

The Avon Lady · 06-14-06, 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by CCIP

1) It's an unwritten rule of internet debates that anyone who brings up comparisons to Hitler should automatically lose the debate. I tend to agree.

I lose:

The mental path to appeasement

You win! Bask in the glory!

Skybird · 06-14-06, 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by The Avon Lady

Quote:

Originally Posted by CCIP

1) It's an unwritten rule of internet debates that anyone who brings up comparisons to Hitler should automatically lose the debate. I tend to agree.

I lose:

The mental path to appeasement

You win! Bask in the glory!

I think he meant me.

Yahoshua · 06-14-06, 01:48 PM

[/quote]......and then come the extreme outbursts of 'let's get ourselves some 7.62mm ammo stocked up', and everyone is good and happy.
How are you better than your bad evil muslim friends this way? [quote]

Well, lemme see about this:

The popular label I've been beaten to death with is that I'm Jewish, so therefore I am: Rich, snobbish, control the world resources, opress any foreign religions, and drink the blood of moslems and christians at every passover seder.

But in reality: I am at the mercy of the masses (save for my rifle to defend myself with), I am a 10 cent dairy goat farmer, I have NO assets and currently live on a spot-job income while saving $ for school, live in Mormonville where there is NO tolerance for anyone who refuses to convert to Mormonism, but I apparently control the planet, organised and carried out 9/11 but keep myself poor to make it look like I don't do any of this.

Add to the fact that I'm the descendant of a pig (as the moslems claim), and that I'd be drawn, quartered, skinned and beheaded within 30 minutes of crossing into a moslem controlled region, and if I happen to survive there I can't even tell people my real name or else they'll think I'm a christian or a jew (they'll kill me either way).

God forbid I'd want to defend myself from these people. I might be portrayed as a serial murderer intent on world domination.

TteFAboB · 06-14-06, 01:55 PM

Thanks.

I do not seek your applause scandium, but exactly your disgust.

STEED · 06-14-06, 03:04 PM

This thread has fallen off the rails and turned into a slanging match not what I call very constructive.

Time to give this thread the

XabbaRus · 06-14-06, 04:04 PM

Should of happened a long time ago. Too many times now I see threads on subsim descending into s*** like this.

Definately not like the subsim of yore. Too much nastiness and venom.

STEED · 06-14-06, 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by XabbaRus

Should of happened a long time ago. Too many times now I see threads on subsim descending into s*** like this.

Definately not like the subsim of yore. Too much nastiness and venom.

HERE, HERE.

06-14-06, 01:55 PM	#6
TteFAboB Admiral Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 2,247 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	Thanks. I do not seek your applause scandium, but exactly your disgust. __________________ "Tout ce qui est exagéré est insignifiant." ("All that is exaggerated is insignificant.") - Talleyrand

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STEED Lucky Jack Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Down Town UK Posts: 27,695 Downloads: 89 Uploads: 48	This thread has fallen off the rails and turned into a slanging match not what I call very constructive. Time to give this thread the __________________ Dr Who rest in peace 1963-2017. To borrow Davros saying...I NAME YOU CHIBNALL THE DESTROYER OF DR WHO YOU KILLED IT!

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XabbaRus Navy Seal Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 5,330 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	Should of happened a long time ago. Too many times now I see threads on subsim descending into s*** like this. Definately not like the subsim of yore. Too much nastiness and venom. __________________

06-14-06, 01:48 PM	#5
Yahoshua The Old Man Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 1,493 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	[/quote]......and then come the extreme outbursts of 'let's get ourselves some 7.62mm ammo stocked up', and everyone is good and happy. How are you better than your bad evil muslim friends this way? [quote] Well, lemme see about this: The popular label I've been beaten to death with is that I'm Jewish, so therefore I am: Rich, snobbish, control the world resources, opress any foreign religions, and drink the blood of moslems and christians at every passover seder. But in reality: I am at the mercy of the masses (save for my rifle to defend myself with), I am a 10 cent dairy goat farmer, I have NO assets and currently live on a spot-job income while saving $ for school, live in Mormonville where there is NO tolerance for anyone who refuses to convert to Mormonism, but I apparently control the planet, organised and carried out 9/11 but keep myself poor to make it look like I don't do any of this. Add to the fact that I'm the descendant of a pig (as the moslems claim), and that I'd be drawn, quartered, skinned and beheaded within 30 minutes of crossing into a moslem controlled region, and if I happen to survive there I can't even tell people my real name or else they'll think I'm a christian or a jew (they'll kill me either way). God forbid I'd want to defend myself from these people. I might be portrayed as a serial murderer intent on world domination.