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04-09-20, 04:11 PM | #16 | ||
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04-09-20, 04:40 PM | #17 |
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Acting Navy Secretary Thomas Modly's trip to Guam to have a little talk with the aircraft carrier Roosevelt's crew about why he replaced their CO ...
Cost the US tax payers $243,000
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04-09-20, 05:23 PM | #18 |
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IT COSTS $1.5 MILLION A DAY TO OPERATE THE USS NIMITZ; AND $6.5 MILLION TO OPERATE THE CARRIER 'GROUP'....
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04-09-20, 08:53 PM | #19 | |
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Although war hasn't been declared, China is certainly the enemy of the U.S. The Navy commanders who sail through the South China Sea understand that all too well. I think it would be in the best interests of the U.S to rebuild their Industrial / manufacturing base including computer tech industries while they still can and end their reliance on China in these critical areas. One final thought. The Navy commanders of the USS Fitzgerald and USS John McCain involved in the collisions with commercial vessels were not disciplined as quickly as Capt. Crozier was. The Investigation took months regarding these collisions. Capt. Crozier was immediately removed. If anything, The Navy is getting worse in how they handle their affairs. Quote: Two three-star admirals told ProPublica they had explicitly notified superiors of the growing dangers. The two people who served successive terms as undersecretary of the Navy, the No. 2 position in the civilian command, said they had, too. They produced memos, reports and contemporaneous notes capturing their warnings and the silence or indifference with which they were met. Now, frustrated by what they regard as the Navy and Pentagon’s papering over of their culpability for the twin tragedies, these officials and others have broken with Navy custom and are speaking candidly, naming names and raising concern that the Navy could well repeat its mistakes. The Navy, embarrassed and scrambling to explain to Congress and America’s allies how such seemingly inexplicable disasters could have happened, moved quickly to prosecute members of ship crews it declared all but incompetent and to strip senior officers of their commands. https://features.propublica.org/navy...-cause-mccain/ The warning of Field Commanders including admirals was again ignored just as Capt Crozier was. Does this all sound familiar ? This only Illustrates how unfairly Capt. Crozier was treated. The removal / resignation of Modly was little more than window dressing and a crude attempt at damage control to cover their own incompetence. Last edited by Commander Wallace; 04-09-20 at 09:07 PM. |
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04-10-20, 10:36 AM | #20 |
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Management sets the tone for how subordinates are treated, valued, and respected and when there is toxic leadership, the whole structure suffers as a result.
Not being a Navy person, I can only guess how this sort of action is taking it's toll on career people as well as those souls who probably would have made it a career. Can't recall if such things (i.e. Cpt. Crozier's firing) are currently happening with the other branches but, going by my opening sentence, I shudder to think of just how much damage is being done to all the services if their uniformed leadership is being treated in such a poor fashion. |
04-10-20, 11:41 AM | #21 |
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^A lot of firing at the discretion of superior officers under 'loss of confidence in ability to command' occurs in all branches .
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04-10-20, 02:29 PM | #22 | |
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Exactly. The current administration talks about constructing a 355 ship fleet. I'm wondering how they will crew such an expansive fleet. Certainly, their efforts to crew a large fleet will be jeopardized if they can't recruit and retain enough qualified people. Their treatment of qualified people like Capt. Crozier places that recruitment and retain-ment at risk. I would hope the upper echelon would be smart enough to know and understand that. Apparently, they are not and the Ill treatment of Capt. Crozier and others, including various admirals, demonstrates that all too clearly. |
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04-11-20, 08:39 AM | #23 |
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There has been an interesting development is the saga of the firing of Capt. Crozier. The Pentagon is considering re-instating Capt. Crozier as the Captain of the carrier USS Theodore Roosevelt. Pentagon officials have said their investigation is now complete.
Quote: The top Navy officer and defense secretary have the same message when it comes to Capt. Brett Crozier being reassigned to the job from which he was removed last week. "We've taken nothing off the table." That's what Defense Secretary Mark Esper told CBS News on Friday morning. On Thursday, Chief of Naval Operations Adm. Michael Gilday also said he's open to reinstating Crozier as the commanding officer of the aircraft carrier Theodore Roosevelt. "I am taking no options off the table," Gilday told The Associated Press. The CNO hasn't spoken to Crozier, the outlet reported, and isn't facing pressure from anyone about the investigation. https://www.yahoo.com/news/nothing-o...163319226.html https://www.military.com/daily-news/...iral-says.html While an admission to a rush to judgement or mistake is not going to happen, this is as close as top officials will come to admitting they erred badly in their treatment and removal of Capt. Crozier. Maybe they are starting to see the big picture. |
04-11-20, 10:39 AM | #24 |
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I sure hope so
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04-14-20, 09:07 AM | #25 | |
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04-14-20, 09:11 AM | #26 | |
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Did you hear about the new drone carriers on regular looking shipping container ships that have drones inside of the containers yet?
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04-14-20, 09:19 AM | #27 | ||
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04-14-20, 09:28 AM | #28 |
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or at least had the same seed thoughts, uh?
Remember all things are spiritual
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04-14-20, 09:38 AM | #29 | ||
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https://www.yahoo.com/news/sailors-r...022906188.html
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March 4th to March 24th
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04-14-20, 10:49 AM | #30 |
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Well it's certainly spiritual for the 40 year-old chief petty officer who has died at Guam, with four more hospitalised as I post...Captain Crozier's case argument, in open letter, is now horribly bonafide. I hope he recovers swiftly and gets back 'on point' ...real soon. A carrier strike force with a cruiser, destroyers et al, and these days, a B-52 overhead, cannot function w/o its carrier...that's 7500 sailors standing down in a crititical theatre of operation...ie: 10% of America's frontline naval power!
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