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Old 03-05-17, 01:30 PM   #1
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The one you show is the on-deck naval mount (later also used in certain batteries).
No, I mean that one:
Sure, I got you know: the "casemate" type gun shields, used on many pre-Dreadnought battleships. These were probably retained when the old battleships were scrapped and their guns converted as coastal artillery, I should have thought of it before

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That type of shield was most common in coastal positions. It theone that was later "upgraded" to the Devil's Gap version. The original shiled is still there:
If not identical, this looks very similar to the gun shields used on Ness artillery pieces:



Another good example:



The caption to the image above, on Imperial War Museum's website, reads: Gunners run to take post at a 9.2-inch coastal defence gun at the Needles Battery on the Isle of Wight, 7 August 1941

This must be the army version of the BL 9.2"/47 Mark X naval gun, which I also paln modelling:

http://www.navweaps.com/Weapons/WNBR_92-47_mk10.htm
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BL_9.2...k_IX%E2%80%93X

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Probably the best way to re-create the shield is to build first the original casemate-type shield and then attach the add-on shield, just as done in reality.
I agree
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Old 03-05-17, 04:49 PM   #2
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Sure, I got you know: the "casemate" type gun shields, used on many pre-Dreadnought battleships. These were probably retained when the old battleships were scrapped and their guns converted as coastal artillery, I should have thought of it before
Some of the Mk VII have been used for coastal defense right away, meaning they were never on ships. The funny thing with those "casemate"-type shields is that they miss the upper portion of the casemate shield usually used aboard ships. And different from true casemate shirlds, these shields are only rounded in the front, not to the back. Could be they were produced that way for coastal purposes.


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If not identical, this looks very similar to the gun shields used on Ness artillery pieces:
At least the same rough makeshift style ...



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This must be the army version of the BL 9.2"/47 Mark X naval gun, which I also paln modelling:

http://www.navweaps.com/Weapons/WNBR_92-47_mk10.htm
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BL_9.2...k_IX%E2%80%93X
Judging form the IWM collection, most 9.2" Mk X in coastal positions retained their open shields. Only few had those add-on roofs, suhc as the prominent one of the Breakneck Battery.

Also, some had more elaborate, probably factory-produced shields:





SH4 has a very simple model of that version, as it has a simple model of the Army version of the 5.25" (both are wrongly scaled and fire 14 and 16" shells ).





These are my slighty re-worked versions of the models. They are still simple enough for SH3 use.

... and that's all I did on coastal positions.
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