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10-23-16, 04:25 PM
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If your system is a 64 bit operating system, then look for the corresponding 64 bit version of Linux or Ubunto. Windows Vista was the forerunner for Windows 7 but Vista was a resource hungry system and support for it ended before it did for windows XP, which Vista replaced. This should tell everyone that Microsoft thought Vista was terrible. You can also look into the fedora operating system. Keep in mind, these systems can be tailored to suit your needs and you can re-skin Linux, Ubunto , Fedora or other Linux based systems to look like your favorite Windows operating system. Last edited by Commander Wallace; 10-23-16 at 04:36 PM. |
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10-23-16, 04:40 PM
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My older computer was a 32 bits Vista home basic. Can't remember what else it had beside the chipset family(I think is the name of the graphic card was) Edit: I was thinking of replace my old Vista with Ubuntu Linux all the way, so after the re-install there will be no more Vista. Markus Last edited by mapuc; 10-23-16 at 04:56 PM. |
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10-23-16, 04:55 PM
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Let us know if you have problems downloading and burning the new operating system as well as loading it in your computer or if you need assistance. If all goes well and I'm sure it will, let us know what your thoughts are regarding your new operating system. Edit. Before you do anything, create a bootable recovery disc of windows vista on your old machine before formatting your hard drive in preparation for the Linux Installation although I'm sure after using Linux, you will never go back to Vista. This is just covering your bases. Last edited by Commander Wallace; 10-23-16 at 05:13 PM. |
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10-24-16, 12:57 PM
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Just because your OS was 32bit, does not mean that your PC was also. My mother purchased a pre-built PC, with Vista 32bit. But, the System was a AMD Athlon x2 4400 64bit. Every time I checked on Windows, the 64bit was always slightly more expensive than the 32bit. Biggest issue I noted was most people were having trouble with 32bit programs on a 64bit version of Windows. Might have been the same situation with your older Vista PC. They chose the less costly, more compatible route, rather than the newest route. The BIOS should tell you when it "POST" at start up what kind of processor is on the board. Although not all boards are really detailed in that regard. Most however, do tell you IN the BIOS what kind of Processor you have, MHZ, etc. So far any Linux version I've tried, Fedora, Ubuntu, Knoppix, to name a few, will tell me what kind of Processor I have. If you actually have a 32bit CPU, and you get the 64bit Version of your chosen Linux Distro, it will tell you if you have a 32bit CPU. The reverse is also true. I haven't seen a 32bit processor for sale anywhere since before I built my 5600 X2, around 8 years ago. (About the time the AMD Phenom was about to be released, or just had been, I'm not entirely sure of the year anymore.) Just a few thoughts... Barracuda UAK |
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10-24-16, 01:51 PM
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^Thank you for your comment
My former, my oldie is from 2010 It's a Parkard Bell computer Haven't had it turned on for weeks, but i remember my graphic was something with Chipset family 64 Mb(on the front it says "Intel Celeron inside) and with 4 GB RAM, 320 GB HDD. First I will find out what's really inside(have to find out how to) The information I will post in this thread. Second I'm going to read the first 3-5 post in this thread. Then I'm going to take notes. When I Think I'm ready. I'll install Ubuntu Linux. Markus |
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10-24-16, 02:24 PM
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If the graphics section is listing 64MB, it's intergrated video. To use it for SH3 and above, find out if you have an AGP, PcI or PcI express video card slot. SH3 can be played on a 128 Mb video card but nothing lower than that. A card in the 512 Mb can be had for $ 30 and above. Once you have the card Markus you need : 1) Go into the BIOS and disable the onboard graphics. 2) turn off your computer and install your video card. 3) if your new card comes with a CD, install it and follow the instructions. 4) if you don't get a CD, go online to the video card manufacturer and download any updates for the video card. At that point, you should be ready to enjoy your games. |
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10-24-16, 08:30 PM
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If we are viewing this from strictly a "Linux" perspective... We have 2 options here... Operating under the assumption that it is indeed an integrated card. (I'm not saying it isn't.) It's either an ATI/AMD GPU, or an Nvidia GPU. If it is an ATI/AMD GPU, then the "Radeon" or "Gallium" open source driver will work, and is included when you install Linux. The Older ATI/AMD 'Catalyst' or 'Crimson' drivers that would work with that card, will not handle the newest "X.org" (the part that actually "draws" your GUI/Desktop), and I doubt it will work with the newer Kernel(s) (the part that is "Linux"). The "New" drivers from AMD ("AMDGPU-PRO"), only start at the R7 (200 or 300 depending on which source I reference), and work with the R9 and the new RX 480X. All the older cards are handled by the "Radeon" open source driver. This Link is me helping Sublynx sort out getting SH3 running "better" on his Linux Mint install... Goes into a bit more "depth" about the drivers. Not a "must read", an example of someone that has "been there" before. http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=195484 If it is an Nvidia, then the open source driver isn't as good. (Last I heard, Nvidia doesn't help the open source driver devs. This may have changed.) The good thing is that Nvidia's Proprietary Linux drivers are very good. In that case you will need to download and install the driver from Nvidia's web site. From attempting to install the Driver on another PC for someone else (in Fedora), you have to drop to the command line to install it. (or at least, you did a few years ago.) You may also be able to increase the amount of RAM allocated to the Video, this will vary by board. I built a AM3 socket Based dual-core 2.8GHZ, with an integrated AMD HD4200. Default was 64/128MB of RAM allocated to the Video, but we could select to increase it up to 512MB in the BIOS. At the time, that PC was also running 4 GB of RAM. Check the BIOS and see what you can do with it. If you opt to get a card, and install it to replace the integrated (and free up the RAM), then install Linux after you get the card, that way it will install the drivers for you. Just a few thoughts on the conversation here... Barracuda Last edited by BarracudaUAK; 10-24-16 at 08:54 PM. |
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10-24-16, 09:29 PM
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Thanks BarracudaUAK for the more detailed description. I was keeping things as simple as I could so as not to add to any confusion. Your analysis goes further and provides valuable information and tips into pulling everything together. Like a number of our forum members, you have built your own computers to the specifications you like so you know what's available.
Thanks again for your input and insight. |
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