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Old 09-08-15, 04:01 PM   #1
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However, tonnage bar calculation could work very nice in combination with hidden progress bar in order to simulated more If/Then dependencies in the actual campaign but, since this feature is broken , we can see no benefits from it...
My biggest concern at the moment is that this issue started when Ubisoft updated UPlay by including the OSI application into the game folders inside their browser.

Before that change there were no files stored in the UPlay folders and those informations were managed in a different way... now it seems that this procedure ceased to exist (giving Birth to this orrible bug... ) and this application act as a sort of emulator or a phantom server...

Despite being broken this application holds a lot of game informations (now stored locally, before they weren't accessible) and it could be a great chance to uncover an important part of the game tasks, allowing new gameplay possibilities on the game campaign for classical SH gamers and new ones alike... an expert like TDW could be of great help on that...

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Where's TDW?
However, if anyone knows how to dig those contents he would be more than welcome !

In the meantime i'll continue my search...
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Old 09-08-15, 04:25 PM   #2
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My biggest concern at the moment is that this issue started when Ubisoft updated UPlay by including the OSI application into the game folders inside their browser.
It is amazing how UBI guys broke a game that they keep selling, and at the same time they have the nerve of washing their hands of it

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Despite being broken this application holds a lot of game informations (now stored locally, before they weren't accessible) and it could be a great chance to uncover an important part of the game tasks, allowing new gameplay possibilities on the game campaign for classical SH gamers and new ones alike... an expert like TDW could be of great help on that...
You say you are not a programmer, but it looks you know on game debugging much more than the average gamer.

It is more than one year now since the last appearance of TDW on this forum. I still hope he will be back anytime soon (it wouldn't be the first time he deserts this community and then pops up again). In the same time we could try getting in touch with some of the game developpers (some of them are appreciated members of this community, they visit the forum from time to time, and they have always been very helpful). If the OSI thing was intruced after SH5's release, I doubt they will be able to help us but, who knows, maybe they will be able to give us some clues.

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However, if anyone knows how to dig those contents he would be more than welcome !

In the meantime i'll continue my search...
Please do!
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Old 09-09-15, 09:16 AM   #3
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Great work MaMa!

As I am a programmer myself I can say you've done really good work to find this (I wouldn't have found it) and also you should forward that information again to Ubisoft, reporting it as a Uplay bug, not SH5 bug, and even include those debug logs as well.

This is because SH5 is no longer supported, but Uplay is supported ongoing. And this bug is actually part of Uplay (OSI is part of Uplay) and was introduced in a Uplay update.

From my experience working in a software company, so if you report the bug under a different category then it may get through to the engineers rather than getting blocked by customer support. If you report it as a SH5 bug then it gets filtered out but a Uplay bug may get through and be fixed. It's a long shot but worth a try. Also, if somebody reports a vague bug then it is less likely to get looked at but if you report exact information like you have found, it has a better chance of being acted on. So we should give detailed information like this.

As it stands, I think it would be difficult to actually fix this with a mod, apart from removing the tonnage bar completely as per Vecko's post above, since it seems to be hard coded into osi.

I had a look at the osi arguments in osi.args
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-osi_memmax 45000 -osi_cpumax 100 -osi_netmax 250
There are only 3 arguments in there, I guess memory max, CPU max and network max.
I guess the first means how much memory is allowed.
Perhaps one thing to try is changing the mem max value from 45000 to a higher value (perhap it sometimes runs out of memory)???
Perhaps another thing is to raise the net max value to a higher value (perhaps it needs more network bandwidth sometimes)???

So actions are:

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We on this forum should all keep reporting this Uplay bug to Ubisoft and if they keep on getting lots of reports about it then they may actually pay attention and 'escalate' it as a real issue. Include the debug logs provided from MaMa and provide a detailed explanation and it's more likely to go through than if we just report it vaguely. More details is better.

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MaMa maybe you can try running again with those changes to the osi.args file?? And see if there is any change in the behaviour for OSI?
Another thing to try might be setting net max or mem max to 0 (perhaps setting to 0 means 'no limit').
Perhaps if it looks at how much memory or network bandwidth is used, it doesn't do the operation properly (I'm only guessing here, it's a long shot)

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Old 09-10-15, 11:16 AM   #4
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Old 09-10-15, 11:58 AM   #5
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Scusami tu ! è mia abitudine avere a che fare con persone americane che parlano e scrivono bene l'italiano... pensavo tu fossi comunque di altra nazionalità !

I will however continue to write everything in english as to allow for everyone a good understanding of everything...
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MaMa Not being technically adroit myself...if Gap says it's brilliant...than it must B SO!

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Old 09-10-15, 12:11 PM   #6
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Sentitevi liberi di inviare in italiano! Abbiamo bisogno di pratica. Disponiamo di traduttori. C'è un po' di Italiano a tutti!
Maybe we can start a new thread in italian but i must admit that i'm a terrible cook so don't expect any pizza recipe !

Back on topic now...

Well guys... first round with UBI completed...

My request has been forwarded from the UBI italian support to the Headquarters (they even asked me to translate the query in english... ).

Let's see where this match lead us... as Always i don't trust those guys but who knows !
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