Who is considering this Falklands Argie v Brit flight sim? - Page 5

Kapitan · 02-01-06, 09:49 AM

also how did the bomb hit did it slap the deck on its side or just drop like a dart ?

Etienne · 02-01-06, 03:34 PM

Again, I see having reinforced framing to cope with rough seas (IE, augmented scantling, more frames, more longitudinals, etc), but I don't see how a reinforced deck would help - The definition of reinforced deck here being "Reinforced to support weight", like the deck on a general cargo, or the tank top on a bulk carrier. Unless it's some sort of experiment, the ship had really heavy deck piping, or you mean the reinforcement for the helicopter area.

Liberty ships had midship accomodation, it makes sense to reinforce amidship, since you have a permanent local charge (IE, ship's heavier there)

Many ships have reinforced bow and forward section (The forward part plus 4% of the lenght of a Ice Class 1A, 2% of... etc, etc...) for ice navigation. All bows have to be strengthened for slamming.

I don't see how a ship could realistically takes so long to break up. Was there asbestos onboard? Where was she broken up?

lesrae · 02-01-06, 04:11 PM

Oh I love forum tennis.

Ahem....

Advantage Etienne.

Kapitan · 02-01-06, 04:24 PM

not all ship's have reinfored decks but some do, the ship my stepdad worked on the deck pipeing wieght in excess of 20 tonnes even more when the oil flowed threw them and the pipes were moving around putting great pressure and strain on the decks.

yes many general cargo ships do have reinforced decks Dart 8 had a reinforced deck (ship i worked on) but some dont the oil tanker prestige didnt and she sank after that double hulls in oil tankers were mandatory.

Etienne · 02-01-06, 04:31 PM

Double hulls were made mandatory by the MARPOL convention, following the Exxon Valdez incident. The Prestige came after that, but as she was an existing ship (IE, a ship built before the new convention), she didn't need to conform to the standards of constructions. She was not, btw, a general cargo.

And reinforced decks wouldn't have saved her. She was essentially rotting from inside out (Heating coils in ballast tanks! That's a SWELL idea!)

Could you ask your stepfather what kind of reinforcement the deck had? I'm really curious.

Kapitan · 02-01-06, 05:05 PM

ive sent four emails il post the reply when i get it he is three hours ahead at the moment so its 0105

Deamon · 04-09-06, 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by U-214

OK,here must be the file i knew.54 MB

http://www.filefactory.com/get/v3/f2...694cb5d6b29231

Click on the free download option

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Originally Posted by VON_CAPO

Here they are. Videos (british source) about how the argentinians used the exocet missiles.

Video 1 = http://rapidshare.de/files/11543485/1.avi.html .

Video 2 = http://rapidshare.de/files/11543901/2.avi.html .

Video 3 = http://rapidshare.de/files/11545493/3.avi.html .

The videos seem to be offline. Is there a way to still get them ?

Deamon

VON_CAPO · 04-09-06, 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Deamon

Quote:

Originally Posted by VON_CAPO

Here they are. Videos (british source) about how the argentinians used the exocet missiles.

Video 1 = http://rapidshare.de/files/11543485/1.avi.html .

Video 2 = http://rapidshare.de/files/11543901/2.avi.html .

Video 3 = http://rapidshare.de/files/11545493/3.avi.html .

The videos seem to be offline. Is there a way to still get them ?

Deamon

I am considerating that they got only 7 downloads, a one of them, just 3 ... a very low interest.

They are 142 Mb all together.

I can upload them again if you are really interested.

Let me know your answer.

Deamon · 04-10-06, 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by VON_CAPO

I am considerating that they got only 7 downloads, a one of them, just 3 ... a very low interest.

What a shame !

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They are 142 Mb all together.

Yeah YEAH YEAH

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I can upload them again if you are really interested.

Let me know your answer.

Let me explain this, Falcland war is one of my most favoured topics in modern naval warfare. That was my favouret scenario in Fleet Command. Although it could have been done better. It would be freaken awesome to play on the argentinian side in the Typ209. Unfortunately there is no typ209 simulator.

I love the Falkland vids and thought where i could find some of them. So i realy realy want them

Thank you very much in advance !

Are you knowledgable on the Falkland war ?

BTW: VAN_CAPO you post here alot of great stuff! Are you a collector or something ?

Maybe i can offer you a few things too ?

Deamon

VON_CAPO · 04-10-06, 11:47 PM

Well, I have packed the files.

I separated them in 2 parts. You will need both to decompress them.

The link to the first part is http://rapidshare.de/files/17700594/...part1.rar.html (78125 KB).

The link to the second part is http://rapidshare.de/files/17708641/...part2.rar.html (68925 KB).

I have the video uploaded by U-214, is awesome, real action, airplanes, bombs and missiles everywhere. With Guns and Roses music in background.
Probably I will upload it tomorrow.

ABBAFAN · 04-11-06, 02:23 PM

I wonder if RFA ships will be modeled in the game.(after all they were crucial to keeping the task force operational.)

Deamon · 04-11-06, 04:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VON_CAPO

Well, I have packed the files.

I separated them in 2 parts. You will need both to decompress them.

The link to the first part is http://rapidshare.de/files/17700594/...part1.rar.html (78125 KB).

The link to the second part is http://rapidshare.de/files/17708641/...part2.rar.html (68925 KB).

I have the video uploaded by U-214, is awesome, real action, airplanes, bombs and missiles everywhere. With Guns and Roses music in background.
Probably I will upload it tomorrow.

Great many thanks. Can't download the second one cose rapidshare tells me that i have downloaded already 80000kb today. Leave it please longer online . I will try tomorrow again.

Looking forward to the 214 clip

Deamon

Deamon · 04-11-06, 05:41 PM

Ok i got it. Great vid !

But it's not complete isn't it ? Do you have the rest of it too ?

Deamon

VON_CAPO · 04-11-06, 07:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deamon

Ok i got it. Great vid !
But it's not complete isn't it ? Do you have the rest of it too ?
Deamon

The whole video is around 700 Mb.
Obviously it is no practical upload it.

By the way, after the exocet missions, almost every navy realized that they were "naked" (or I can express it with more precision if I use the word "porosity") against this kind of attack.
The result was that they rush themselves to get as soon as possible the "Phalanx system" and, or equivalents .

VON_CAPO · 04-11-06, 09:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deamon

Looking forward to the 214 clip

Deamon

U-214's movie: http://rapidshare.de/files/10127281/...1232_.wmv.html
(55649 KB).

02-01-06, 09:49 AM	#1
Kapitan Sub Test Pilot Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: UK + Canada Posts: 7,131 Downloads: 77 Uploads: 7	also how did the bomb hit did it slap the deck on its side or just drop like a dart ? __________________ DONT FORGET if you like a post to nominate it by using the blue diamond Find out about Museum Ships here: https://www.museumships.us/ Flickr for all my pictures: https://www.flickr.com/photos/131313936@N03/ Navy general board articles: https://www.navygeneralboard.com/author/aegis/

02-01-06, 04:24 PM	#4
Kapitan Sub Test Pilot Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: UK + Canada Posts: 7,131 Downloads: 77 Uploads: 7	not all ship's have reinfored decks but some do, the ship my stepdad worked on the deck pipeing wieght in excess of 20 tonnes even more when the oil flowed threw them and the pipes were moving around putting great pressure and strain on the decks. yes many general cargo ships do have reinforced decks Dart 8 had a reinforced deck (ship i worked on) but some dont the oil tanker prestige didnt and she sank after that double hulls in oil tankers were mandatory. __________________ DONT FORGET if you like a post to nominate it by using the blue diamond Find out about Museum Ships here: https://www.museumships.us/ Flickr for all my pictures: https://www.flickr.com/photos/131313936@N03/ Navy general board articles: https://www.navygeneralboard.com/author/aegis/

02-01-06, 05:05 PM	#6
Kapitan Sub Test Pilot Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: UK + Canada Posts: 7,131 Downloads: 77 Uploads: 7	ive sent four emails il post the reply when i get it he is three hours ahead at the moment so its 0105 __________________ DONT FORGET if you like a post to nominate it by using the blue diamond Find out about Museum Ships here: https://www.museumships.us/ Flickr for all my pictures: https://www.flickr.com/photos/131313936@N03/ Navy general board articles: https://www.navygeneralboard.com/author/aegis/

04-11-06, 02:23 PM	#11
ABBAFAN Commander Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 456 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I wonder if RFA ships will be modeled in the game.(after all they were crucial to keeping the task force operational.) __________________ CHOOSE RFA! LESS GRAFT, MORE PAY.

02-01-06, 03:34 PM	#2
Etienne Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 695 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	Again, I see having reinforced framing to cope with rough seas (IE, augmented scantling, more frames, more longitudinals, etc), but I don't see how a reinforced deck would help - The definition of reinforced deck here being "Reinforced to support weight", like the deck on a general cargo, or the tank top on a bulk carrier. Unless it's some sort of experiment, the ship had really heavy deck piping, or you mean the reinforcement for the helicopter area. Liberty ships had midship accomodation, it makes sense to reinforce amidship, since you have a permanent local charge (IE, ship's heavier there) Many ships have reinforced bow and forward section (The forward part plus 4% of the lenght of a Ice Class 1A, 2% of... etc, etc...) for ice navigation. All bows have to be strengthened for slamming. I don't see how a ship could realistically takes so long to break up. Was there asbestos onboard? Where was she broken up?

02-01-06, 04:11 PM	#3
lesrae Grey Wolf Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Somerset, UK. Posts: 932 Downloads: 31 Uploads: 0	Oh I love forum tennis. Ahem.... Advantage Etienne.

02-01-06, 04:31 PM	#5
Etienne Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 695 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	Double hulls were made mandatory by the MARPOL convention, following the Exxon Valdez incident. The Prestige came after that, but as she was an existing ship (IE, a ship built before the new convention), she didn't need to conform to the standards of constructions. She was not, btw, a general cargo. And reinforced decks wouldn't have saved her. She was essentially rotting from inside out (Heating coils in ballast tanks! That's a SWELL idea!) Could you ask your stepfather what kind of reinforcement the deck had? I'm really curious.

04-10-06, 11:47 PM	#10
VON_CAPO Samurai Navy Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 588 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Well, I have packed the files. I separated them in 2 parts. You will need both to decompress them. The link to the first part is http://rapidshare.de/files/17700594/...part1.rar.html (78125 KB). The link to the second part is http://rapidshare.de/files/17708641/...part2.rar.html (68925 KB). I have the video uploaded by U-214, is awesome, real action, airplanes, bombs and missiles everywhere. With Guns and Roses music in background. Probably I will upload it tomorrow.

04-11-06, 05:41 PM	#13
Deamon Commodore Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Germany Posts: 642 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	Ok i got it. Great vid ! But it's not complete isn't it ? Do you have the rest of it too ? Deamon