Microsoft Flight

Skybird · 07-26-12, 05:04 AM

No surprise, this is the end of this ugly story:

http://forums.steampowered.com/forum...php?p=31948901

MS sends Flight flying through the window.

No loss there, I'd say. The future speaks X-Plane and Prepar3d, with FSX still doing very good. MS has alienated so many members of the flight sim community by this want-a-bigger-piece-of-the-flightsim-money-pie-stunt that I would be surprised to hear of them again soon. This was needless, idiotic and doomed to fail from all beginning on.

First they ruined the FS franchise, now they stall with Flight. RIP.

Herr-Berbunch · 07-26-12, 07:29 AM

I don't know what to say! Part of me thinks 'yay, we've been proven right, it was an unworkable model', the other have thinks that 'with a little bit more than half'arsedness and lame they'd have done a bit better'.

They should turn back to FSX and optimize that for modern systems, how to please millions in one go. It'll never happen, even though LM are proving it can be done.

flatsixes · 07-26-12, 10:47 AM

I never played the new MS Flight Simulator, so I can't speak to it's worth. But I've been flying sims for a while now, and hate to see such high-profile failures in the genre. I mean, someday I am going to look for something beyond my trusty (but well worn) Il-2, RoF, and FS-X, and I'd like to have something to put a twinkle in my eye. (I've heard a lot about X-Plane, but my rig is still too weak to support it. Anybody want to buy a teenager or two?)

Oberon · 07-26-12, 10:54 AM

Well, that's the end of the MS Flight sim for another decade. A bit of a shame, but inevitable really. That's what happens when you try to make a Flight sim after shutting down the studio that made the last successful one IIRC.
A shame, but FSX is still quite a capable engine and with the likes of PMDG and Accusim it's still got life in it. Then there's X-Plane which I suspect will expand to fill the next-gen global Flight simulator gap, so it's not all doom and gloom. Hopefully MS will learn their lessons from this debacle so that when they return to the Flight sim market they'll do it right...and yes, hopefully they'll also put in a prototypical flying pig with a proper flight model...

GSpector · 07-26-12, 07:08 PM

Well, I'm not surprised but I do feel bad for all those that downloaded it and spent money to expand it with the hopes of getting their area or landmarks they wanted. I just see it now as a complete waste of money.

I'll admit it, I downloaded it but I never installed it. I was never impressed with it but I too was waiting to see what the expansions had. I heard aboule the full Hawaii bundle as well as Alaska (never new if the latter was released). I live in Colorado and wondered just how long it would take. I guess I can stop waiting now.

Skybird · 07-27-12, 07:08 AM

Flight based on a completely flawed assessement from all beginning on. FSX offers much more in the default package already, and sees users investing heavily into additional planes, scenery, airports. MS wanted to get a bite of that pie, by overpriced minibits of pieces that lacked the quality of dedicated FS9- and FSX- developers. Even regarding content, the default FSX offers more than Flight would have within the forseeable number of years - just that Flight would have turned out to be hilariously expensive by following that model through. And they really expected that any serious FS hobby pilot would abandon his hundreds of dollars-heavy modded FS-installation for - for this...?

Honestly, I think it was a greedy but incompetent fool who bred this idea, and he did not know anything about how the FS/Prepar3d market functions and about the FS community's interests and motivations. And X-plane probably was just a rumour he heared about, but did not believe that it would ever become reality.

Many developers for the first time ever have started to create content for X-Plane, btw. After these many years and many versions, it now seems to experience the real liftoff.

Oberon · 07-27-12, 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Skybird

Many developers for the first time ever have started to create content for X-Plane, btw. After these many years and many versions, it now seems to experience the real liftoff.

Good, and if the developers of X-plane have the sense that they surely have for not going down the MS route, then they will encourage these developers who now that Flight has officially gone down the drain and taken the likelihood of MS doing a decent successor to FSX within the next five to ten years with it, will be looking to take the next generation with X-plane.

Herr-Berbunch · 07-27-12, 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Oberon

Good, and if the developers of SHO have the sense that they surely have for not going down the MS route. . .

I hope I'm wrong.

Quote:

Here is the Nordsee. Here is U-25 or U-26. Want a bit more, you can buy a IIA/B/C/D. If you don't want to buy them, complete all our acheivements (sink 1 squillion tons of merchant shipping, and 1 million tons of BB, shoot down 500 aircraft (with no flak guns!) and they'll be yours.

In a couple of months we'll release, for you - at a cost, the Eastern Atlantik.

Then we'll sell you the VII range of boots.

Then, by then, maybe we'll have got the Eastern Seaboard of the US modelled. And the Type IX boots.

07-26-12, 05:04 AM	#1
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,687 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	No surprise, this is the end of this ugly story: http://forums.steampowered.com/forum...php?p=31948901 MS sends Flight flying through the window. No loss there, I'd say. The future speaks X-Plane and Prepar3d, with FSX still doing very good. MS has alienated so many members of the flight sim community by this want-a-bigger-piece-of-the-flightsim-money-pie-stunt that I would be surprised to hear of them again soon. This was needless, idiotic and doomed to fail from all beginning on. First they ruined the FS franchise, now they stall with Flight. RIP. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

07-26-12, 07:29 AM	#2
Herr-Berbunch Kaiser Bill's batman Join Date: May 2010 Location: AN72 Posts: 13,203 Downloads: 76 Uploads: 0	I don't know what to say! Part of me thinks 'yay, we've been proven right, it was an unworkable model', the other have thinks that 'with a little bit more than half'arsedness and lame they'd have done a bit better'. They should turn back to FSX and optimize that for modern systems, how to please millions in one go. It'll never happen, even though LM are proving it can be done. __________________

07-26-12, 07:08 PM	#5
GSpector Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Colorado Springs Posts: 676 Downloads: 11 Uploads: 0	Well, I'm not surprised but I do feel bad for all those that downloaded it and spent money to expand it with the hopes of getting their area or landmarks they wanted. I just see it now as a complete waste of money. I'll admit it, I downloaded it but I never installed it. I was never impressed with it but I too was waiting to see what the expansions had. I heard aboule the full Hawaii bundle as well as Alaska (never new if the latter was released). I live in Colorado and wondered just how long it would take. I guess I can stop waiting now. __________________ Specter

07-27-12, 07:08 AM	#6
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,687 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Flight based on a completely flawed assessement from all beginning on. FSX offers much more in the default package already, and sees users investing heavily into additional planes, scenery, airports. MS wanted to get a bite of that pie, by overpriced minibits of pieces that lacked the quality of dedicated FS9- and FSX- developers. Even regarding content, the default FSX offers more than Flight would have within the forseeable number of years - just that Flight would have turned out to be hilariously expensive by following that model through. And they really expected that any serious FS hobby pilot would abandon his hundreds of dollars-heavy modded FS-installation for - for this...? Honestly, I think it was a greedy but incompetent fool who bred this idea, and he did not know anything about how the FS/Prepar3d market functions and about the FS community's interests and motivations. And X-plane probably was just a rumour he heared about, but did not believe that it would ever become reality. Many developers for the first time ever have started to create content for X-Plane, btw. After these many years and many versions, it now seems to experience the real liftoff. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

07-26-12, 10:47 AM	#3
flatsixes Weps Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Virginia Posts: 362 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 0	I never played the new MS Flight Simulator, so I can't speak to it's worth. But I've been flying sims for a while now, and hate to see such high-profile failures in the genre. I mean, someday I am going to look for something beyond my trusty (but well worn) Il-2, RoF, and FS-X, and I'd like to have something to put a twinkle in my eye. (I've heard a lot about X-Plane, but my rig is still too weak to support it. Anybody want to buy a teenager or two?)

07-26-12, 10:54 AM	#4
Oberon Lucky Jack Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 25,976 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 20	Well, that's the end of the MS Flight sim for another decade. A bit of a shame, but inevitable really. That's what happens when you try to make a Flight sim after shutting down the studio that made the last successful one IIRC. A shame, but FSX is still quite a capable engine and with the likes of PMDG and Accusim it's still got life in it. Then there's X-Plane which I suspect will expand to fill the next-gen global Flight simulator gap, so it's not all doom and gloom. Hopefully MS will learn their lessons from this debacle so that when they return to the Flight sim market they'll do it right...and yes, hopefully they'll also put in a prototypical flying pig with a proper flight model...