america good?

[Takeda Shingen]

Don't forget smokejumpers. Maybe we can get Howie Long.

[retired1212]

sorry the brig is already full

[Abraham]

Originally Posted by Konovalov

That's cool. In addition to the firetruck a few water bombing aircraft and helos might come in handy.

But then the heli's will steal the fire trucks again and the whole thread is back to post eight!

[Konovalov]

Originally Posted by Abraham

But then the heli's will steal the fire trucks again and the whole thread is back to post eight!

Kapitain,

All jokes aside you could have worded this topic a little better. For a start you didn't have to go with the massive font, CAPS, and in red. Also it would have been better if your opening statement didn't begin with something like "Now I don't want to start off some flame war here!" Also it would have helped if you set the agenda of the topic with a little bit more direction. An example would be "Is United States foreign policy on the right track or the wrong track? State you position/opinion and reasons for this."

By doing something like this you may avert being labelled a Troll. I don't think there is anything wrong with the topic itself. It is just how you presented it which lends it not to be taken very seriously.

[Iceman]

Umm..Ughh...America Bad..

.....One for Good Two for Bad....Definately Bad...Definatley.

K-Mart Sucks...lol

[CCIP]

Originally Posted by Iceman

K-Mart Sucks...lol

For once we totally agree



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Actually, I love America as a land and Americans as people, generally speaking. I don't like America as a 'model society' or America as the superpower, however.

[Iceman]

Originally Posted by CCIP

For once we totally agree



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Actually, I love America as a land and Americans as people, generally speaking. I don't like America as a 'model society' or America as the superpower, however.

Well whenever the mighty Maple Leaf steps up maybe we can all sit back and see how it is supposed to be done....Armchair Quaterbacking lol...

[CCIP]

Canada ain't no 'golden leaf', either. I'm not sure what is. There's no country that's full of only smart people :hmm:

[Pigfish]

Well the topic is about American foreign policy. I just read this and thought it was interesting. I have to admit I shake my head with a lot of my southern neighbors policies the last few years:

http://www.defencetalk.com/news/publ...cle_004678.php

[Sea Demon]

Originally Posted by Pigfish

Well the topic is about American foreign policy. I just read this and thought it was interesting. I have to admit I shake my head with a lot of my southern neighbors policies the last few years:

http://www.defencetalk.com/news/publ...cle_004678.php

Well, I don't see Canada stepping up to the plate to try and solve any of the world's security issues. As a matter of fact they don't have the resources or the will to do it. It's easy to sit back and whine and moan about everything. By the way, Hugo Chavez could end up being a pain in Canada's rear-end also. It's not that hard to see that. But at any rate, I see Canada (like Europe) creating their own internal problems through massive, unfettered immigration from the Islamic world. I wonder how long Canadians will allow this. Will Canada call for America's help in the future if they need it? Yes, we Americans have plenty of criticisms about Canada as well.

[TteFAboB]

Originally Posted by Pigfish

Well the topic is about American foreign policy. I just read this and thought it was interesting. I have to admit I shake my head with a lot of my southern neighbors policies the last few years:

http://www.defencetalk.com/news/publ...cle_004678.php

What do you find interesting about that link? I'm not sure if you disapprove it or if you are amazed to find something that pleased you.

By the way, I know how hard it is to get information about South America, just in case you are not properly informed, Brazil also wants to sell Fighter-Bombers to Venezuela and since these planes have alot of parts built inside the USA (along with technology) the Brazilian government was asked not to sell them.

[kiwi_2005]

America Good:
Seawolf
F16
Hollywood
beautiful woman only on telly or movies but ones that make your jaw drop to the floor
The Boss Mustang
Bill gates
xbox360
music
cartoons
Movie stars
Gridion
Nascar racing
windows95
The Thompson Machine gun
Las vegas. lol
The Harley Davidison
And Elvis.

With eastern accent "Bad bad American:"
Tobbacco advertisement
Fastfood inventions - the hotdog with mustard!!!?
The Big Mac
Porn
Cocaine
More beautiful woman
The Bikini
Satanic heavy metal
The church of Satan by LeVay ( only in America)
Arnold Swartsenneger
Nixon
Over done tv commericals especially the get fit in 14days and have ripple abs
Flower power
The F word...

[joea]

No no no, bikini gooooooooooood plus I think it was a Frenchman that invented it. Arnie was Austrian (though they have disowned him it seems). Beautiful women good and bad? OK. :hmm: Otherwise your list meets my approval kiwi.

[Mustang]

Bill Gates?
Are you frakking kidding me!

As an American seeing topics like this I am caught between a rock and a hard place. I'm not the ideal patriot but I do Love my family and they are Americans so instead of saying America is good or bad I'll say America and Americans are a group of people with many different backgrounds and culture.

America isn't such a bad place, it has many things that many countries do not. To be honest I think its star achievement though at times corrupt is its Judicial system. I mean sure crooks get off at times but this is the only country I know of where a man can find a good enough defence to save himself. That may be wrong but the thing is its a freedom, a right he has that he would get nowhere else and if he really wasn't the crook then he was saved because somehow he had sufficient evidence. America is a double edged blade it is 50/50 everything so it will have points where its bad points outweigh the good ones but it always, /ALWAYS/ balances itself. We're not all that bad we haven't had a race riot in ages and nor have we had a holy war. I don't know for sure though, because sadly America is misinformed. Our media is more corrupt then our government so I couldn't tell you what is going on outside of what I see when I walk out my door.

So bash the government, but blame the aristocrats. It is the rich people who run those parts of the U.S. and they have grown so powerful that the people can't stand against them. But The American people, and I can't speak for all of us or the majority because I just know my friends, my family, my neighbors, my co-workers, hell even my boss are good people and would do anything to help anyone. No matter their creed, because we all have done it before. And we did it Without the fancy helicopters, or the 1000 manpower or the infinite amounts of money.

We do what we can, me and my little community. So to be honest I can't say All Americans are this or that nor this group of Americans approves this and not that. So if you can do it, please tell me how, because I'm an American and haven't been able to do it in 30 Years.

America is not a single people we are many people. I think I remember once Australia had some media guy say he'd, "pay for anyone who assaults any American they see.".. Another media person wrote in reply, " Good Luck with that, Americans are all different colors, all different shapes and sizes. They have many accents ranging from Asian to Canadian. They have all sorts of different religions and beliefs. So The only way to find one besides looking at his passport, was to hear his accent but even then you may mistake a Canadian and oppress the wrong countrymen rather then oppressing the one you wanted."
word for word, I'm unsure if that's what it said but the point is people make America, America doesn't make people and right now the idiot people are in charge but they won't be for long because it will balances itself out.

Hope that helps in helping you define what America is before giving opinions on it,
Mustang

[August]

Originally Posted by joea

No no no, bikini gooooooooooood plus I think it was a Frenchman that invented it.

Bikini doesn't sound like a French word. I thought the bikini was named after Bikini atoll where the US did all those nuke tests in the 50's.