Megaupload file-sharing site shut down

[Seeadler]

I met Kim Schmitz years ago at a convention of the CCC (chaos computer club) here in Hamburg Germany where he appeared as guest speaker

[Kongo Otto]

Originally Posted by Seeadler

I met Kim Schmitz years ago at a convention of the CCC (chaos computer club) here in Hamburg Germany where he appeared as guest speaker

What was he talking about? Internet Fraud, Common Fraud, Inside Trading, Handling stolen goods or just a little small talk about why he's such a fat twat.

[USS Drum]

So let's use this is an example: If someone bought a gun from a store and shot someone, who should be held guilty, the person who made the gun or the person who shot it?

Now for Megaupload, who should be held responsible, the person who uploaded the file or the person who runs the website?

[Sailor Steve]

Originally Posted by USS Drum

So let's use this is an example: If someone bought a gun from a store and shot someone, who should be held guilty, the person who made the gun or the person who shot it?

Now for Megaupload, who should be held responsible, the person who uploaded the file or the person who runs the website?

Bad comparison. The one has nothing to do with the other. A better one would be stolen goods. Who is more resonsible, the guy who stole the furs or the guy who got caught holding them. As was pointed out, sites like Rapidshare actively track down and delete illegal uploads. If Megaupload doesn't do that then they are indeed guilty of illegal activities.

I too think it's a witchhunt, and I've given my reasons, but your comparison is not even remotely valid.

[Herr-Berbunch]

Originally Posted by razark

Lovely. So this will be used as a reason why we need things like SOPA and PIPA.

Thanks a lot, guys.

This has nothing directly to do with SOPA/PIPA, they are about piracy/copyright infringement - not denial of service attacks.

[razark]

Originally Posted by Herr-Berbunch

This has nothing directly to do with SOPA/PIPA, they are about piracy/copyright infringement - not denial of service attacks.

If the people making the laws understood how the internet works, they wouldn't be creating stuff like SOPA. They'll be pushing the "see how evil these copyright infringing people are? we need laws to take them out" angle to push more laws that don't work.

(Yes, this is not directly related to specific laws (SOPA/PIPA) designed to take down piracy sites, but using laws to take down a piracy site IS what happened here. The DDoS attack was in retaliation for a site being taken down. Or as someone put it: "REVENGE!")