U S frigate fires on scottish merchant vessel. - Page 3

The Avon Lady · 12-13-05, 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Oberon

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TLAM Strike · 12-13-05, 01:00 PM

Kapitan · 12-13-05, 01:23 PM

hotel i forget where i put my picture of the juliette

TLAM Strike · 12-13-05, 01:51 PM

I got you covered Kapitain, and moving on...

Kapitan · 12-13-05, 04:19 PM

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soundken · 12-13-05, 10:51 PM

"The USS Klakring radioed Greig Milligan - skipper of the tiny Spanish John II - with a chilling ultimatum: "Move away from the safety zone or we will open fire."

The 41-year-old then heard four explosions and saw four flashes of light - two red and two white"

im no naval expert , but am a media one. this sounds like "sensational journalism" did the american ship actually fire AT/ACROSS the scotish ship, seems to me if a warship fires at you YOUR GONNA KNOW IT

and it aint gonna be pretty flasshes on the horizon more like missles streaming past or shells wizzing by followed by rising colums of water and explosians, could it be the american skipper fired off some flares or starshells to apear more scary or to stress his point,

perhaps mr dont know how to use the radio/to stupid to realize the NAVY is operating in the area captain. could have been in real danger of wandering into the middle of a live fire exercise

every now and then some yahoo with a 4x4 tries to see how close he can get to red flag (really not smart ) i imagine the navy has the same prob

speaking of radio problems Kaptain!? sorry couldnt resist the dig

Wim Libaers · 12-14-05, 05:41 AM

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Originally Posted by soundken

"The USS Klakring radioed Greig Milligan - skipper of the tiny Spanish John II - with a chilling ultimatum: "Move away from the safety zone or we will open fire."

The 41-year-old then heard four explosions and saw four flashes of light - two red and two white"

Signal lamps perhaps?

Etienne · 12-14-05, 08:25 AM

Although the IMO's STCW convention specifies that all deck officers on merchant vessels must be able to receive and transmit morse code at five words a minute, it is well understood that morse is learned a week before the exam, then promptly forgotten.

If the millitary think ALDIS is still an efficient way to contact a merchant vessel, they are farther up their ivory tower than I thought.

Colored flares only mean something once you get close to shore, they're life boat signals (Red meaning don't land here, green is land here, white is land that way, if I recall correctly), unless otherwise specified in NtN or NtM, in relation to, usually, a millitary exercice area.

It used to be that they could mean "I need a pilot", "I need a tug" "You can enter the harbor" and stuff like that, but that disappeared with VHF.

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soundken Watch Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 24 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	"The USS Klakring radioed Greig Milligan - skipper of the tiny Spanish John II - with a chilling ultimatum: "Move away from the safety zone or we will open fire." The 41-year-old then heard four explosions and saw four flashes of light - two red and two white" im no naval expert , but am a media one. this sounds like "sensational journalism" did the american ship actually fire AT/ACROSS the scotish ship, seems to me if a warship fires at you YOUR GONNA KNOW IT and it aint gonna be pretty flasshes on the horizon more like missles streaming past or shells wizzing by followed by rising colums of water and explosians, could it be the american skipper fired off some flares or starshells to apear more scary or to stress his point, perhaps mr dont know how to use the radio/to stupid to realize the NAVY is operating in the area captain. could have been in real danger of wandering into the middle of a live fire exercise every now and then some yahoo with a 4x4 tries to see how close he can get to red flag (really not smart ) i imagine the navy has the same prob speaking of radio problems Kaptain!? sorry couldnt resist the dig

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Etienne Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 695 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	Although the IMO's STCW convention specifies that all deck officers on merchant vessels must be able to receive and transmit morse code at five words a minute, it is well understood that morse is learned a week before the exam, then promptly forgotten. If the millitary think ALDIS is still an efficient way to contact a merchant vessel, they are farther up their ivory tower than I thought. Colored flares only mean something once you get close to shore, they're life boat signals (Red meaning don't land here, green is land here, white is land that way, if I recall correctly), unless otherwise specified in NtN or NtM, in relation to, usually, a millitary exercice area. It used to be that they could mean "I need a pilot", "I need a tug" "You can enter the harbor" and stuff like that, but that disappeared with VHF.