Red Tails (2012)

[Sailor Steve]

Originally Posted by Anthony W.

You know, in instances, a tail slide like that was possible...

Not as dramatic as they made it look. That one shot made it look like it could outturn a biplane.

I love finding other people who know that the P-51 wasn't some uber UFO.

Too bad you guys weren't here a couple of years ago. I went 'round and 'round with a guy who insisted that the Mustang was worlds better than anything else in the sky. I couldn't make him understand that the P-51's claim to fame was that it was the only single-engined fighter with the range to escort bombers from England to Berlin and back again. It was marginally faster than the late-model Bf.109s, and the turn radius was about the same. In return the 109G-10 and K models could outclimb the Mustang and rolled faster. The Germans were also limited to 85-octane fuel. If they could have gotten our 100-octane they may have been just as fast.

But we'll never know. I hate it when they make planes do things they shouldn't, but hey, it's got planes in it, so they'll get my money. Once. More will depend on how well they pull it off.

[Hottentot]

P-51 won teh war! (*Runs away from the angry IL-2 Luftwhiners giggling like a maniac*)

Seriously speaking, I remember fondly when I frequented Ubisoft's IL-2 forums as a lurker and there were many discussions concerning the plane and how it compared to its counterparts. The best comment I remember from those discussions was someone saying along the lines: "Of course, no matter from whom you ask, you will hear that their plane was the best and could do anything. Those who might disagree aren't here anymore."

[Anthony W.]

Originally Posted by Hottentot

P-51 won teh war! (*Runs away from the angry IL-2 Luftwhiners giggling like a maniac*)

Seriously speaking, I remember fondly when I frequented Ubisoft's IL-2 forums as a lurker and there were many discussions concerning the plane and how it compared to its counterparts. The best comment I remember from those discussions was someone saying along the lines: "Of course, no matter from whom you ask, you will hear that their plane was the best and could do anything. Those who might disagree aren't here anymore."

B-29 won the war if any plane.

And, yeah, it did make it look like it could out turn a biplane.

"Inverted rolling reversal" comes to mind when I think of something like that.

If you jerked the controls back quick enough, your tail would slide very well. The issue with that and the movie is that it'd also bring your airspeed to 0 and you'd drop like a rock.

IL-2 FTW!

[Raptor1]

In IL-2 the thing is an even bigger stall monkey than the Fw 190 Dora, flying it is guaranteed to get you into a spiraling death in less time than it takes for a 262 to explode on the runway.

Well, while the P-51 hardly won the war, and I'm not really that big a fan of it (The P-39 and P-63, those were awesome!), it worked very well in its intended role as a long range escort fighter.

[Anthony W.]

Originally Posted by Raptor1

In IL-2 the thing is an even bigger stall monkey than the Fw 190 Dora, flying it is guaranteed to get you into a spiraling death in less time than it takes for a 262 to explode on the runway.

Well, while the P-51 hardly won the war, and I'm not really that big a fan of it (The P-39 and P-63, those were awesome!), it worked very well in its intended role as a long range escort fighter.

In IL-2 all planes fly like Russian planes. They have this little lag before they stall, and a tail slide is physically impossible. We're just learning the aerodynamic and flight modeling system. Our biggest leap yet is the fire and forget missile system and having broken the sound barrier.

[Dowly]

Originally Posted by Anthony W.

In IL-2 all planes fly like Russian planes.

Except the I-16, that one's a UFO.