Do you want Awards ? - Page 2

Lane · 11-23-05, 09:50 PM

Kapitain,

Fish is just joking with us older player's
You mean Fish is older then us guys

That makes me feel young

Right Subsailor

Lane

Kapitan · 11-24-05, 02:30 AM

i got that part i waas meaning i dont get the award bit

Bellman · 11-24-05, 06:16 AM

Fish:

Quote:

I am to old to play with you kids.

Fish is referring to the "Over Fifties'' bit I think.

A level I set tactfully :rotfl: so as to muddy the waters a bit.

Lane:

Quote:

How many do we have over 50? Grin Grin

Maybes someone will poll it ?

Bellman · 11-24-05, 06:33 AM

Sorry Mein Kapitain - which bit of it dont you understand ?
PM me and we can take it from there. OK ?

Kapitan · 11-24-05, 06:50 AM

ok well dont worry oh and that poll i set it up for ya

Bellman · 11-24-05, 07:18 AM

We seem to have wandered off into the area of 'Old Comrades Reunions' But thanks Kap et al.

This Poll has run a week - so I guess we can give it another.- it would be nice to see at least 30 pollers.

Kapitan · 11-24-05, 07:28 AM

20 in any poll i recon is enough

when i said i set it up some where else i ment the over 50 poll

Fish · 11-24-05, 03:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lane

Kapitain,

Fish is just joking with us older player's
You mean Fish is older then us guys

That makes me feel young

Right Subsailor

Lane

Sorry Lane, your older then me.

HÃ©, I am junior.

Bellman · 11-24-05, 03:19 PM

Well I'm going to 'cheat' and poll as just out of diapers in Kaps Poll in General, I mean really :-
''Stonehenger''

MaHuJa · 11-25-05, 02:49 AM

I think getting overly competetive mission designing etc will only hurt the community as a whole.

Best modder?
Unless it becomes the rather pointless "lwami award"... (At least until it possibly changes to "dwx award")
...yeah, right. I don't want 10+ mods hanging around if I can help it. In such a competing environment, there might be considerable accusations of copying etc, and multiplayer will suffer - we don't want that. And that is what such an award will encourage, if not accomplish.

Best mission designer?
Here you run into a few problems. Least of which is that it may be discouraging for someone who just can't seem to reach the top, you may end up with mission makers trying to outdo each other, with the missions that will entail. The complexity will go up to climb the impresscale, but overall quality may not follow.

Best mission?
Might be on to something here, but this would probably require several sub-categories, based on realism, balance(mp), short/medium/long/verylong duration etc etc.

On the other hand, a 'medal' system as outlined by LW, will probably do a bit better.

Bellman · 11-25-05, 04:36 AM

At this moment, if we proceed the 'recognition of service' type Award is historical. Next time (if there is one) yes I
agree we should be concerned about the incentive effects which indeed could be negative, if we are'nt carefull.
But I dont see it as 'overly competitive' and striving for some excellence cannot 'hurt the community' IMO.
The point is we are saying "Thank you very much'' to an individual for his/her contribution above and beyond the norm.
That of itself does not devalue everybody elses input.

LW and your suggestion of a 'medal' type system has much merit. Particularly, I think if we invite nominations
and then poll for a short list, before the final 'medal' poll. Top voted 'medal' poll gets 'Gold' and so on ?

I like the 'Best Mission' category. Also we dont have to be too intense in all our choices, there is room
for a little light relief. For example maybe we could also have 'Best Signature ' (Or funniest

)
No reason why we should'nt award ' Most helpfull poster,' 'Most humorous poster' etc. Heck we can work it so that
everyone gets an Award if thats what you want.

Fish · 11-25-05, 05:04 AM

I partly agree with Mahuja, but, while for me working in the shadows suffice, competition works too, see sportsman, scientists etcetera.
So a bit from both works best I think.

Bellman · 11-25-05, 05:13 AM

Yep - good point.

The thing is that if someone feels that they 'dont work for Awards' or if they have any other objection, they are
quite free to 'Opt-out' if they are nominated at stage one.

We dont want to 'mark' them out if they dont want it.

Bellman · 11-30-05, 07:10 AM

That looks like a 'yes' to me.

The first Award will be for mission designers who have produced your favourite single play scenarios
in DW, SC, SCX and SCU whether those are within a campaign or not.

So I propose starting by inviting nominations for Ace Scripter SP. There will be Gold, Silver and Bronze categorise.

We shall short list the top 5 by nomination numbers and then have a poll for 'Gold' etc.

We can then move on to MP.

I will open a new thread.

View Poll Results: Do you want this Award system ?
Yes.	20	66.67%
No.	10	33.33%
Voters: 30. You may not vote on this poll

11-24-05, 02:30 AM	#2
Kapitan Sub Test Pilot Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: UK + Canada Posts: 7,134 Downloads: 77 Uploads: 7	i got that part i waas meaning i dont get the award bit __________________ DONT FORGET if you like a post to nominate it by using the blue diamond Find out about Museum Ships here: https://www.museumships.us/ Flickr for all my pictures: https://www.flickr.com/photos/131313936@N03/ Navy general board articles: https://www.navygeneralboard.com/author/aegis/

11-24-05, 06:33 AM	#4
Bellman Sea Lord Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 1,945 Downloads: 220 Uploads: 0	Sorry Mein Kapitain - which bit of it dont you understand ? PM me and we can take it from there. OK ? __________________ Liberty, Equality, Fraternity

11-24-05, 06:50 AM	#5
Kapitan Sub Test Pilot Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: UK + Canada Posts: 7,134 Downloads: 77 Uploads: 7	ok well dont worry oh and that poll i set it up for ya __________________ DONT FORGET if you like a post to nominate it by using the blue diamond Find out about Museum Ships here: https://www.museumships.us/ Flickr for all my pictures: https://www.flickr.com/photos/131313936@N03/ Navy general board articles: https://www.navygeneralboard.com/author/aegis/

11-24-05, 07:18 AM	#6
Bellman Sea Lord Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 1,945 Downloads: 220 Uploads: 0	We seem to have wandered off into the area of 'Old Comrades Reunions' But thanks Kap et al. This Poll has run a week - so I guess we can give it another.- it would be nice to see at least 30 pollers. __________________ Liberty, Equality, Fraternity

11-23-05, 09:50 PM	#1
Lane Subsim Diehard Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Southwest , Indiana USA Posts: 380 Downloads: 36 Uploads: 0	Kapitain, Fish is just joking with us older player's You mean Fish is older then us guys That makes me feel young Right Subsailor Lane

11-24-05, 07:28 AM	#7
Kapitan Sub Test Pilot Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: UK + Canada Posts: 7,134 Downloads: 77 Uploads: 7	20 in any poll i recon is enough when i said i set it up some where else i ment the over 50 poll __________________ DONT FORGET if you like a post to nominate it by using the blue diamond Find out about Museum Ships here: https://www.museumships.us/ Flickr for all my pictures: https://www.flickr.com/photos/131313936@N03/ Navy general board articles: https://www.navygeneralboard.com/author/aegis/

11-24-05, 03:19 PM	#9
Bellman Sea Lord Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 1,945 Downloads: 220 Uploads: 0	Well I'm going to 'cheat' and poll as just out of diapers in Kaps Poll in General, I mean really :- ''Stonehenger'' __________________ Liberty, Equality, Fraternity

11-25-05, 02:49 AM	#10
MaHuJa Sonar Guy Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: 59.96156N 11.02255E Posts: 385 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 0	I think getting overly competetive mission designing etc will only hurt the community as a whole. Best modder? Unless it becomes the rather pointless "lwami award"... (At least until it possibly changes to "dwx award") ...yeah, right. I don't want 10+ mods hanging around if I can help it. In such a competing environment, there might be considerable accusations of copying etc, and multiplayer will suffer - we don't want that. And that is what such an award will encourage, if not accomplish. Best mission designer? Here you run into a few problems. Least of which is that it may be discouraging for someone who just can't seem to reach the top, you may end up with mission makers trying to outdo each other, with the missions that will entail. The complexity will go up to climb the impresscale, but overall quality may not follow. Best mission? Might be on to something here, but this would probably require several sub-categories, based on realism, balance(mp), short/medium/long/verylong duration etc etc. On the other hand, a 'medal' system as outlined by LW, will probably do a bit better. __________________ Teaching DW newbies how to climb the food chain.

11-25-05, 04:36 AM	#11
Bellman Sea Lord Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 1,945 Downloads: 220 Uploads: 0	At this moment, if we proceed the 'recognition of service' type Award is historical. Next time (if there is one) yes I agree we should be concerned about the incentive effects which indeed could be negative, if we are'nt carefull. But I dont see it as 'overly competitive' and striving for some excellence cannot 'hurt the community' IMO. The point is we are saying "Thank you very much'' to an individual for his/her contribution above and beyond the norm. That of itself does not devalue everybody elses input. LW and your suggestion of a 'medal' type system has much merit. Particularly, I think if we invite nominations and then poll for a short list, before the final 'medal' poll. Top voted 'medal' poll gets 'Gold' and so on ? I like the 'Best Mission' category. Also we dont have to be too intense in all our choices, there is room for a little light relief. For example maybe we could also have 'Best Signature ' (Or funniest ) No reason why we should'nt award ' Most helpfull poster,' 'Most humorous poster' etc. Heck we can work it so that everyone gets an Award if thats what you want. __________________ Liberty, Equality, Fraternity

11-25-05, 05:04 AM	#12
Fish Eternal Patrol Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Netherlands Posts: 1,923 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I partly agree with Mahuja, but, while for me working in the shadows suffice, competition works too, see sportsman, scientists etcetera. So a bit from both works best I think.

11-25-05, 05:13 AM	#13
Bellman Sea Lord Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 1,945 Downloads: 220 Uploads: 0	Yep - good point. The thing is that if someone feels that they 'dont work for Awards' or if they have any other objection, they are quite free to 'Opt-out' if they are nominated at stage one. We dont want to 'mark' them out if they dont want it. __________________ Liberty, Equality, Fraternity

11-30-05, 07:10 AM	#14
Bellman Sea Lord Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 1,945 Downloads: 220 Uploads: 0	That looks like a 'yes' to me. The first Award will be for mission designers who have produced your favourite single play scenarios in DW, SC, SCX and SCU whether those are within a campaign or not. So I propose starting by inviting nominations for Ace Scripter SP. There will be Gold, Silver and Bronze categorise. We shall short list the top 5 by nomination numbers and then have a poll for 'Gold' etc. We can then move on to MP. I will open a new thread. __________________ Liberty, Equality, Fraternity