ADD-ON for SHIII released in Germany! - Page 3

Marhkimov · 11-16-05, 01:12 AM

Gizzmoe · 11-16-05, 01:15 AM

Welcome back, AS!

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Originally Posted by AS

ItÂ´ll take me some time to find out whether I wasted money or not.

I can assure you, itÂ´s a total waste of money!

As sergbuto wrote, there is RUb, IUb and many other mods that are much, much better than Seawolves. Well, there is no freeware Pacific campaign so far, but the one thatÂ´s in Seawolves is a bad joke...

Also, if you have time read the 26-pages thread about Seawolves:
http://www.subsim.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=40628

Gizzmoe · 11-16-05, 01:19 AM

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Originally Posted by kiwi_2005

I dont want to buy this addon but i would love to know where i can DL this American addon Mod for SH3.

ItÂ´s part of the package and cannot be downloaded seperately.

Marhkimov · 11-16-05, 01:26 AM

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It is illegal to steal our own community files??? Essentially we all made X1, not those people who packaged and sold it...

Hmm... Illegal? That's news to me.

Gizzmoe · 11-16-05, 01:29 AM

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Originally Posted by marhkimov

It is illegal to steal our own community files??? Essentially we all made X1, not those people who packaged and sold it...
Hmm... Illegal? That's news to me.

ItÂ´s a commerical software package and itÂ´s illegal to upload it.

supersloth · 11-16-05, 02:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Ducimus

Hey ducimus where did you get that pic? i have a tshirt i bought in hawaii with the exact same picture on the back.

AS · 11-16-05, 07:44 AM

Alright, now that most of you have told me IÂ´m an idiot because of buying whatÂ´s been offered for free I may dive deep and lick my wounds. On the other hand, I must admit IÂ´m tired of downloading hundreds of mods (which often donÂ´t work togehter) and I donÂ´t have the time in the moment, so basically I approve of Add-Ons and IÂ´m willing to pay for them if they are good. DonÂ´t get me wrong, as far as SeewÃ¶lfe is concerend, you convinced me that it was a waste of money. And now please stop kicking me, IÂ´m such a sissy ;-)

LOL, AS

Nico71 · 11-16-05, 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by AS

On the other hand, I must admit IÂ´m tired of downloading hundreds of mods (which often donÂ´t work togehter) and I donÂ´t have the time in the moment, so basically I approve of Add-Ons and IÂ´m willing to pay for them if they are good.

That's what IUB is good for!

And keep in mind: if you buy an "add-on" that contains unapproved mods, your money goes to the wrong guys! Software pirates, to be precise.

rulle34 · 11-16-05, 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Gizzmoe

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Originally Posted by marhkimov

It is illegal to steal our own community files??? Essentially we all made X1, not those people who packaged and sold it...
Hmm... Illegal? That's news to me.

ItÂ´s a commerical software package and itÂ´s illegal to upload it.

Can it be the other way? That now it's not legal anylonger to use free mods that is now included in this SeewÃ¶lfe?

nelson · 11-16-05, 08:25 AM

Put RUB and IUB on disk and sell for Â£2 o.n.o for the guys who haven't got broadband or haven't got time to sit downloading loads of different mods that don't work together sometimes.
That might stop the pirates.

gouldjg · 11-16-05, 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by nelson

Put RUB and IUB on disk and sell for Â£2 o.n.o for the guys who haven't got broadband or haven't got time to sit downloading loads of different mods that don't work together sometimes.
That might stop the pirates.

Unfortuantly this would be the start of the end for people to enjoy having free mods.

I am not completely upto date with all this X1 stuff but I know they have ripped of the modders and the consumers by charging and IMHO they are scum.

You all have to feel sorry for the people who spend hour upon hour never really playing the game but rather testing and tweaking and creating it to be better for us gamers, then only to stand back and watch some **** who has been lurking in the background, take your work, give a tiny thankyou and then make money on it. GGGGGRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR.

X1

up yours :P

Herr Karl · 11-16-05, 10:36 AM

X1 sounds bad...I was wondering about the banners I was seeing...now I know. How can they legally sell something they didn`t create?

Serverdaemon · 11-16-05, 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Herr Karl

X1 sounds bad...I was wondering about the banners I was seeing...now I know. How can they legally sell something they didn`t create?

Done all the time!

The guy who invented the incremental windshield wipers had his idea stolen from him! As far as I know, he's STILL fighting the automakers in court...

S

Hartmann · 11-16-05, 06:20 PM

Run Deep ....Run silent....

Chuck B. · 11-16-05, 07:01 PM

Well, from the legal perspective, this is pretty straightforward:

Mods that are created by someone are probably protected by copyright law (and if they are protected by US/UK/French etc. copyright law, they are also protected under German copyright law, as per reciprocity).
So anyone whose Mod is copied verbatim by X1 in this "compilation" has a potential claim against X1 for copyright infringement. The easiest thing would be to send a "cease and desist" letter to X1 and see how they will react. If they don't do business in the country you're living in, there is a chance that they will not react at all (and you probably don't want to sue them in Germany).

There are some potential problems that have to be considered, and to name one of them:
A lot of the Mods are actually using copyrighted material without consent of the copyright holder (just think about anything that uses material from the movie "Das Boot").

Just my 10 legal cents ...

Chuck

11-16-05, 01:12 AM	#1
Marhkimov Admiral Join Date: May 2005 Location: Bay Area, California, USA Posts: 2,377 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	<Moderator edit: Do not suggest illegal things - Gizzmoe> __________________ It takes two to tango

11-16-05, 07:44 AM	#7
AS 中国水兵 Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Germany Posts: 275 Downloads: 135 Uploads: 0	Alright, now that most of you have told me IÂ´m an idiot because of buying whatÂ´s been offered for free I may dive deep and lick my wounds. On the other hand, I must admit IÂ´m tired of downloading hundreds of mods (which often donÂ´t work togehter) and I donÂ´t have the time in the moment, so basically I approve of Add-Ons and IÂ´m willing to pay for them if they are good. DonÂ´t get me wrong, as far as SeewÃ¶lfe is concerend, you convinced me that it was a waste of money. And now please stop kicking me, IÂ´m such a sissy ;-) LOL, AS __________________ Whenever people agree with me I always feel I must be wrong. (Oscar Wilde)

11-16-05, 10:36 AM	#12
Herr Karl Medic Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Seattle,WA/Dutch Harbor,AK Posts: 163 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	X1 sounds bad...I was wondering about the banners I was seeing...now I know. How can they legally sell something they didn`t create? __________________ Gato

11-16-05, 06:20 PM	#14
Hartmann Sea Lord Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Grid CH 26, Spain ,Barcelona Posts: 1,857 Downloads: 204 Uploads: 0	Run Deep ....Run silent.... __________________ But this ship can't sink!... She is made of iron, sir. I assure you, she can. and she will. It is a mathematical certainty. Strength and honor

11-16-05, 08:25 AM	#10
nelson Medic Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Suffolk UK Posts: 160 Downloads: 65 Uploads: 0	Put RUB and IUB on disk and sell for Â£2 o.n.o for the guys who haven't got broadband or haven't got time to sit downloading loads of different mods that don't work together sometimes. That might stop the pirates.

11-16-05, 07:01 PM	#15
Chuck B. Watch Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 28 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	Well, from the legal perspective, this is pretty straightforward: Mods that are created by someone are probably protected by copyright law (and if they are protected by US/UK/French etc. copyright law, they are also protected under German copyright law, as per reciprocity). So anyone whose Mod is copied verbatim by X1 in this "compilation" has a potential claim against X1 for copyright infringement. The easiest thing would be to send a "cease and desist" letter to X1 and see how they will react. If they don't do business in the country you're living in, there is a chance that they will not react at all (and you probably don't want to sue them in Germany). There are some potential problems that have to be considered, and to name one of them: A lot of the Mods are actually using copyrighted material without consent of the copyright holder (just think about anything that uses material from the movie "Das Boot"). Just my 10 legal cents ... Chuck