First imported model: Vosper - Page 5

sergbuto · 10-01-05, 08:24 AM

Sure. Go ahead and follow Devs instructions on this matter, I do not mind. And I will follow experience, results of testing, what my computer can handle and what I like after all.

If people followed the Devs instructions to the letter for SH2 and DC at the time, the games would still have only crappy models.

AG124 · 10-01-05, 09:01 AM

Those poly counts from the Dev team do not seem reasonable to me - If a Battleship can have 35000, then shouldn't a freighter work with the same amount. They probably had different reasons fot those limits. I would prefer more detailed models, as long as they don't slow down my computer (the models in SH2 were not really detailed enough). Of course, I might not know what I'm talking about at all...

There were a couple of models from SH2, that I did like a little, such as the Troop Transport, Slow Cargo, and Oil Tanker. Can these be imported with Sansal's tool? Also, some of the others could have more details added and then be imported.

AG124 · 10-01-05, 09:02 AM

Those poly counts from the Dev team do not seem reasonable to me - If a Battleship can have 35000, then shouldn't a freighter work with the same amount. They probably had different reasons fot those limits. I would prefer more detailed models, as long as they don't slow down my computer (the models in SH2 were not really detailed enough). Of course, I might not know what I'm talking about at all...

There were a couple of models from SH2, that I did like a little, such as the Troop Transport, Slow Cargo, and Oil Tanker. Can these be imported with Sansal's tool? Also, some of the others could have more details added and then be imported.

Sansal · 10-01-05, 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by AG124

There were a couple of models from SH2, that I did like a little, such as the Troop Transport, Slow Cargo, and Oil Tanker. Can these be imported with Sansal's tool? Also, some of the others could have more details added and then be imported.

I think that is best make new ships with externals obj. There are a lot of 3d modelers here (Cdr GÂ¡bs have finished a Gato) and this SH2 models have poor quality. It's only my opinion.

This Gato

Schultzy · 10-01-05, 10:03 AM

Think you've opened the flood gates mate!!

Absolutely brilliant work!

Hut ab!

oRGy · 10-01-05, 10:05 AM

35,000 polygons is more than enough to make a detailed model. Not everyone has high-powered systems.

You can rubbish me all you want, of course.

sergbuto · 10-01-05, 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by oRGy

35,000 polygons is more than enough to make a detailed model.

Yes, I agree. Just do it. No point to complain.

oRGy · 10-01-05, 10:22 AM

I'm not complaining - I'm suggesting. I have a full time game development job and keeping IuB updated is quite enough work for me.

And I'm also issuing a friendly warning - the detailed model might be great but if drags down the framerate you'll get howls of complaints from all and sundry.

oRGy · 10-01-05, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by AG124

Those poly counts from the Dev team do not seem reasonable to me - If a Battleship can have 35000, then shouldn't a freighter work with the same amount. They probably had different reasons fot those limits. I would prefer more detailed models, as long as they don't slow down my computer (the models in SH2 were not really detailed enough). Of course, I might not know what I'm talking about at all...

The reason a BB has more polygons allotted is for a couple of reasons I think. The first is that the superstructure is bigger and more complicated than your average merchant. The other reason is that you only see a couple of BB's at any one time (or even throughout the game), whereas you can see a lot of merchants, for example in convoy.

On my system - an AMD 3200+ with a GeForce 6600 - just looking at a battleship full with wake particles visible slows the framerate noticeably, whereas doing the same with a merchant does not.

AG124 · 10-01-05, 10:56 AM

Yeah, we probably don't need SH2 models, but I thought some of them could be used as stopgap measures while others were being made. Of course, there are probably a lot of models out there which are ready to import already - does anybody have a list of their completed 3d models? I suspect there are not many merchants which are ready to import however, but hopefully I an wrong (I probably am).

This poly count issue has me concerned - I have a good system which has perfromed fine thus far, but I don't know how it would perform with the new high-poly models:

Processor: P4, 2.4 Ghz
Motherboard: DFI PM12-TL
RAM - PC 3200 400Mhz, 1.6GB
Video Card - ATI Radeon 9250, 256MB
Sound Card - Onboard.

Of course, some other people may have an even worse system. However, maybe there will be no problems - someone should run some tests on completed ships first before we all panic.

sergbuto · 10-01-05, 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by oRGy

I'm not complaining - I'm suggesting. I have a full time game development job and keeping IuB updated is quite enough work for me.

And I'm also issuing a friendly warning - the detailed model might be great but if drags down the framerate you'll get howls of complaints from all and sundry.

Certainly, it did not sound to me as a suggestion but a lecture. And before issuing a friendly warning, it helps to at least ask what testing was done in this respect and what specs the computer had.

sergbuto · 10-01-05, 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by AG124

Yeah, we probably don't need SH2 models, but I thought some of them could be used as stopgap measures while others were being made. Of course, there are probably a lot of models out there which are ready to import already - does anybody have a list of their completed 3d models? I suspect there are not many merchants which are ready to import however, but hopefully I an wrong (I probably am).

This poly count issue has me concerned - I have a good system which has perfromed fine thus far, but I don't know how it would perform with the new high-poly models:

Processor: P4, 2.4 Ghz
Motherboard: DFI PM12-TL
RAM - PC 3200 400Mhz, 1.6GB
Video Card - ATI Radeon 9250, 256MB
Sound Card - Onboard.

Of course, some other people may have an even worse system. However, maybe there will be no problems - someone should run some tests on completed ships first before we all panic.

Do not let scare yourself before even any of new models came in.

I have much worse specs but not very worried. I think there will be enough models around to choose from which would suit your specs better.

AG124 · 10-01-05, 11:29 AM

Sergbuto wrote

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Do not let scare yourself before even any of new models came in. I have much worse specs but not very worried. I think there will be enough models around to choose from which would suit your specs better.

Sounds good to me - I will try out new ships before making any judgements. There probably won't be any problams anyway.

Sergbuto, when will the Vosper be ready for 'launching', and what other new models do you have? I realize that it will take time to get everything right though - I'm just wondering.

sergbuto · 10-02-05, 04:04 PM

Vosper was rather a test. Unfortunately, the model does not have appropriate UV mapping, so I guess it'll take time to finish it.

I can't type in here all the model available for import to SH3 because the list is relatively long. It will take long time to import them all so I have to make some choices.

I hope that Seacondor who has made many models of German warships and guys from Betasom with quite a number of Italian models will soon start porting those models to SH3.

Kpt. Lehmann · 10-02-05, 05:44 PM

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Does this tool allow you to fix or substitute a reflection for the Type II sub?

Maybe. I do not know exactly. I have not looked at that.

Sergbuto, if you find a way to fix that and release it as a mod... I will swim to Sweden and mow your grass with scissors.

Looks like I'll be swimming to Sweden... How short do you like your grass Sergbuto?

10-01-05, 08:24 AM	#1
sergbuto Pacific Aces Dev Team Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Sweden Posts: 1,331 Downloads: 15 Uploads: 0	Sure. Go ahead and follow Devs instructions on this matter, I do not mind. And I will follow experience, results of testing, what my computer can handle and what I like after all. If people followed the Devs instructions to the letter for SH2 and DC at the time, the games would still have only crappy models. __________________ Serg's SH4 and SH3 pages

10-02-05, 04:04 PM	#14
sergbuto Pacific Aces Dev Team Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Sweden Posts: 1,331 Downloads: 15 Uploads: 0	Vosper was rather a test. Unfortunately, the model does not have appropriate UV mapping, so I guess it'll take time to finish it. I can't type in here all the model available for import to SH3 because the list is relatively long. It will take long time to import them all so I have to make some choices. I hope that Seacondor who has made many models of German warships and guys from Betasom with quite a number of Italian models will soon start porting those models to SH3. __________________ Serg's SH4 and SH3 pages

10-01-05, 09:01 AM	#2
AG124 Sea Lord Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Canada Posts: 1,878 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	Those poly counts from the Dev team do not seem reasonable to me - If a Battleship can have 35000, then shouldn't a freighter work with the same amount. They probably had different reasons fot those limits. I would prefer more detailed models, as long as they don't slow down my computer (the models in SH2 were not really detailed enough). Of course, I might not know what I'm talking about at all... There were a couple of models from SH2, that I did like a little, such as the Troop Transport, Slow Cargo, and Oil Tanker. Can these be imported with Sansal's tool? Also, some of the others could have more details added and then be imported.

10-01-05, 09:02 AM	#3
AG124 Sea Lord Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Canada Posts: 1,878 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	Those poly counts from the Dev team do not seem reasonable to me - If a Battleship can have 35000, then shouldn't a freighter work with the same amount. They probably had different reasons fot those limits. I would prefer more detailed models, as long as they don't slow down my computer (the models in SH2 were not really detailed enough). Of course, I might not know what I'm talking about at all... There were a couple of models from SH2, that I did like a little, such as the Troop Transport, Slow Cargo, and Oil Tanker. Can these be imported with Sansal's tool? Also, some of the others could have more details added and then be imported.

10-01-05, 10:03 AM	#5
Schultzy Commander Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Großbritannien Posts: 452 Downloads: 48 Uploads: 0	Think you've opened the flood gates mate!! Absolutely brilliant work! Hut ab!

10-01-05, 10:05 AM	#6
oRGy Crusty Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 648 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 0	35,000 polygons is more than enough to make a detailed model. Not everyone has high-powered systems. You can rubbish me all you want, of course.

10-01-05, 10:22 AM	#8
oRGy Crusty Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 648 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 0	I'm not complaining - I'm suggesting. I have a full time game development job and keeping IuB updated is quite enough work for me. And I'm also issuing a friendly warning - the detailed model might be great but if drags down the framerate you'll get howls of complaints from all and sundry.

10-01-05, 10:56 AM	#10
AG124 Sea Lord Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Canada Posts: 1,878 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	Yeah, we probably don't need SH2 models, but I thought some of them could be used as stopgap measures while others were being made. Of course, there are probably a lot of models out there which are ready to import already - does anybody have a list of their completed 3d models? I suspect there are not many merchants which are ready to import however, but hopefully I an wrong (I probably am). This poly count issue has me concerned - I have a good system which has perfromed fine thus far, but I don't know how it would perform with the new high-poly models: Processor: P4, 2.4 Ghz Motherboard: DFI PM12-TL RAM - PC 3200 400Mhz, 1.6GB Video Card - ATI Radeon 9250, 256MB Sound Card - Onboard. Of course, some other people may have an even worse system. However, maybe there will be no problems - someone should run some tests on completed ships first before we all panic.