[UNCOVERED] SH5 officially left for dead!

[thyro]

Originally Posted by Arclight

Thyro; SH5 was perfectly playable from the start, though with a lot of missing functionality. And with the mods at this point it is perfectly enjoyable. No need to wait 3-4 years. I'd even consider that statement a slight to the work modders have already done.

Thanks Arclight, but I think you missed my point.

Half baked products I simply don't be wasting my money on them!


Not to mention other monster called DRM which the minimum is insulting for a paying customer.

Beside I'm glad you enjoy the SH5 as it is with a very long list of problems and lack of evolution. I wouldn't stand that at all, I wouldn't mind buying a bugged game (I bought so many over the years that I got used too) but half baked game? plus bugs? plus DRM? that is too much rubish on my plate.

Don't get me wrong in one thing... I'm not water down Subsim modders, in time (not days/months but years) SH5 might become a game what UBI was incompetent to achieve before the day of game release.

So actually modders deserve more appraisal than any of UBI devs. Beside who deserves being paid any future purchases of SH5 should be SUBSIM modders and not the monkeys sat at UBI.

I feel no sorry what so ever towards UBI because if this is true and UBI let SH5 to die... then UBI just scam alot of people with this half baked product even forced under DRM draconian idiocy so they deserve no respect.

Cheers

[seaniam81]

Originally Posted by Arclight

As far as simulators go: they published IL2 and LockOn; no doubt those are simulators. It seems you're forgetting about SH3, a praised and popular game (within it's niche) also regarded as a sim.

While I agree with pretty much everything you said Arc. I'm just going to point out IL2 and LockOn were indeed published by UBI, however they were created by 1C/Maddox (IL2) and Eagle Dynamics (LockOn) and Ubi had no hand in creating either. They just slapped their name on the box out on it's way out the door to the stores.

If anything UBI should be paying attention to 1C/Maddox because they still support IL2, and didn't IL2 come out in 2001?

[Topo65]

Originally Posted by Arclight

I hate to do this...

So... dont do it! (Its just a joke ) Thanks for taking your time to read my post and give me your point of view.

Maybe I should not post without a full knowledge of the language, and take the risk of using words that could be misinterpreted. But do not blame me for feeling part of this community, which I appreciate so much and try to express myself.

I just want to make clear that I really appreciate the work done by the modders. Yes, I'm a little angry with Ubisoft and the treatment given to the saga. But I respect and accept the opinions of others.

[Faamecanic]

Originally Posted by daft

Agreed. There are more guilty parties besides Ubi in this case. A self fulfilling prophecy of ever I saw one. "The subsim genre is dead". Well, it certainly has taken a big step towards that state, but the blame lies not only with Ubi or the devs...

Thats one comment I will NEVER agree with.

Thats like GM producing crap quality cars then wondering why thier sales are far below that of Ford or Toyota. Blame the car purchasers...ya thats it.

Even the reviews in PC GAMER both pre and post patch suck, which almost NEVER reviews games before and after patch (thier policy is to only review the Gold release). And PC gamer reviewed SH5 as a causal gamer would look at the game.

I do however agree that looking at the fiasco of unfinished state in a negative light and saying "Sh 5 will never be good" short changes our MODDERS here. I feel HONORED to belong to a community where FREE MODS done with the sweat off the brows of modders here can SAVE a game that had a budget and PAID staff to produce. Hence why I feel UBI will never release a SDK (willingly) because our modders will make UBI look VERY VERY bad with what they can do. However...would be nice if the SDK would somehow end up "leaked".....illegal I know..sorry UBI but by releasing crap you brought this on yourself.. (by this I mean like how the SDK ended up in modders hands for Falcon 2.0 or how a dev for BAttlezone 2 eneded up working on and patching the game 8 years latter to something GREAT after the publisher abandoned the title).