report: Turkey attacks Kurdish bases: 120 die

a semi-related story which also surprisingly gets little play, Iran has shelled, bombed and invaded Iraqi territory for the past month:

Iran has been doing that for the past decade and more

but it is again hard to understand why this type of story does not get a bigger play in the news media

Because its not really news.

of course, Iran is not attacking Iraq, but Kurdistan

which doesn't really exist

or why it has not been raised in the U.N.

Who is going to raise it, the only people supporting those seperatists are those who have to pretend they are not supporting those seperatists and the people who have national and soveriegnty issues over these incidents and so might raise them have their own problems with the seperatists so they won't raise them.

not surprisingly, I could not find one word about this story on Al Jazeera's english website.

Yep the only recent PJAK article is about the executions in Iran

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by goldorak

All true Skybird except that you are forgetting one thing.
Europeans never really wanted Turkey in the union.
It was always the US pressing for this.
With all the problems we have, US ingerence in the european affairs is the last thing we need.
I say it again, for the all the stupid politicians we have, the greatest danger to a unified political and military europe has always been NATO. NATO is the beach head of the US in europe.
It has full filled its role during the cold war but now its just a leftover that does more damage than good.
We need a centralised european military force, without the americans. And NATO is an enourmous obstacle to achieving that goal.

I haven't forgotten US demands over Turkey at all - in the past I took too much flak that the Us ran a strategy of weakening the EU from within (as a potential rival on nthe world stage) by bringing turkey into the EU, and hoping to strengthen american influence on Turkey at the same time. But when turkey denied passage of US troops heading for Iraq, this should have rang some bells in Washington. maybe it did - but he consequences in thinking were to become even more determined to mistake wishes with reality: since 2003 it seems the Us demanded even louder that those stubborn Europeans should let Turkey in.

No chance, Sammy, never. Not even if Mexico would join the union, for Mexico is culturally quite close to the West, while Turkey is not.

[Schroeder]

Originally Posted by Skybird

No chance, Sammy, never. Not even if Mexico would join the union, for Mexico is culturally quite close to the West, while Turkey is not.

I'm not so sure about that.
Let some governments be changed (and ours is pretty likely to not make it to the end of it's regular term) and Turkey will be invited again with a red carped and many apologies from our side.

The truth is just too inconvenient to admit it.