6 Days And Counting ..

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Originally Posted by John Channing

As I said somewhere else given the mature, reasoned and rational response to the first patch delay both here and on the Ubisoft forums I would be amazed if they haven't put in a company wide prohibition against giving firm dates on anything.

I can understand that and that's why most companies I know of state tentative release dates with stipulations that they aren't written in stone and subject to change. Of course some people will moan for every delay that happens but a total ban on all communication? I personally think that is much worse.

[daft]

It would have been much easier for the devs if the community had been less... shall we say "rabid", about things. They are now in a position where they are better off clamping down and tightening up the coms, since just about everything will be dissected, misunderstood and over-analysed before it is thrown back at them. The benefits of talking isn't very great at the moment.

[kylania]

Originally Posted by daft

It would have been much easier for the devs if the community had been less... shall we say "rabid", about things.

If the game had come out at least with all required commands, and perhaps a few less bugs this wouldn't be happening. If the patch had come out on April 12th, like they said, this wouldn't be happening. If the patch had come out on April 20th, like they said, this wouldn't be happening. If they had announced on the German and English official boards the same information at the same time, this wouldn't be happening. If they added on three more weeks of waiting after failing two patch release dates but had said anything official about it, this wouldn't be happening.

Ubisoft has failed spectacularly and repeatedly pretty much at every step of the game here and continues to avoid giving us any information at all about the state of the game or when we'll see it playable in stock form.

If they'd just communicate this wouldn't be as big a deal as it is, but that "rabid" community is rabid because we're having to find things out on our own from foreign web forums and reports of products in Russia instead of the official channels of communication, which apparently don't exist for Silent Hunter 5.

[robbo180265]

Originally Posted by kylania

If the game had come out at least with all required commands, and perhaps a few less bugs this wouldn't be happening. If the patch had come out on April 12th, like they said, this wouldn't be happening. If the patch had come out on April 20th, like they said, this wouldn't be happening. If they had announced on the German and English official boards the same information at the same time, this wouldn't be happening. If they added on three more weeks of waiting after failing two patch release dates but had said anything official about it, this wouldn't be happening.

Ubisoft has failed spectacularly and repeatedly pretty much at every step of the game here and continues to avoid giving us any information at all about the state of the game or when we'll see it playable in stock form.

If they'd just communicate this wouldn't be as big a deal as it is, but that "rabid" community is rabid because we're having to find things out on our own from foreign web forums and reports of products in Russia instead of the official channels of communication, which apparently don't exist for Silent Hunter 5.

Once again I totally agree. If the posters at the English speaking UBisoft forums had recieved any kind of response to their questions then maybe they wouldn't have felt the need to come here and let off steam.

What we are seeing at Subsim (mostly) is a reflection of the UBI forums I.E. unhappy posters voicing their unhappyness.

Difference here is that someone replies.

[John Channing]

Originally Posted by kylania

If the game had come out at least with all required commands, and perhaps a few less bugs this wouldn't be happening. If the patch had come out on April 12th, like they said, this wouldn't be happening. If the patch had come out on April 20th, like they said, this wouldn't be happening. If they had announced on the German and English official boards the same information at the same time, this wouldn't be happening. If they added on three more weeks of waiting after failing two patch release dates but had said anything official about it, this wouldn't be happening.

Ubisoft has failed spectacularly and repeatedly pretty much at every step of the game here and continues to avoid giving us any information at all about the state of the game or when we'll see it playable in stock form.

If they'd just communicate this wouldn't be as big a deal as it is, but that "rabid" community is rabid because we're having to find things out on our own from foreign web forums and reports of products in Russia instead of the official channels of communication, which apparently don't exist for Silent Hunter 5.

An alternative POV for you to consider.

You mention "required commands". Required by who? It's pretty obvious this game was developed to try to increase the base of Sub-Sim players (thereby increasing the genre's financial viablilty) and not for the Grognards who habituate this forum. I believe that the Devs left all of the hooks for the traditional controls in so that modders could re-make it into something it wasn't meant to be and that reflects well on them. But if anyone thinks that Ubisoft could fund the Silent Hunter series based on the number of people here they had better brush up on their grade 7 math.

If the patch had come out on April the 12th, incomplete or in a form that made things worse, you are right... this would not be happening. It would be a thousand times worse.

Same as if the patch came out on the 20th and it made things worse.

And, if we have learned anything here, we have learned that even if they had communicated openly about the missed dates people would have complained about that. If you don't believe me check out the reaction over the rumours (started by a Ubisoft associate on a Ubisoft website) that the Devs had the temerity to go on vacation instead of working round the clock on WHAT I WANT NOW!!!!!

In the same paragraph you complain that the game was rushed out, incomplete and full of bugs, and then point to two delays in releasing the patch, which was obviously not ready for prime time, and sum up with the conclusion that they have "failed spectacularly and repeatedly pretty much at every step" . You are obviuosly not alone with this POV, but I find it puzzling.

As far as blaming Ubisofts communications policies for people's rants... sorry but that doesn't hold water. People are, or at least should be, responsible for their own actions. If they are willing to cede control of their emotions and reactions over to a corporation simply because a game does not live up to their preconcieved notions of what it should be, they are in for a very unhappy life indeed.


JCC