SH5 Interview conclusions - Page 2

01-21-10, 12:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aura

there's a big problem here. The devs seem to be relying on the modding community to make SHV a great game.

Don't get me wrong. I love GWX. But if youre developing a game, you should aspire to make it great, not mediocre and then expect the modding community to fix it for you.

The devs just seem to have the wrong mentality here.

SHIII was full of bugs on release. SHIV was full of bugs on release. SHV...?

i think you are pointing to the wrong persons, the devs are like us, they love and play subsims themselves and want to give us a finished, complete, fully working game but they take orders from the bosses/suits and when you have to work with a limited budget and only "x" amount of time to work on it you just try and do the best you can under those limitations.

The General · 01-20-10, 07:51 PM

Did a U-boat sink any major targets after May 1943?

JScones · 01-20-10, 08:03 PM

Stats from April 1943 to April 1945...

[194304] Monthly losses: 15 U-boats for 287,137 tons of Allied shipping
[194305] Monthly losses: 41 U-boats for 237,182 tons of Allied shipping
[194306] Monthly losses: 17 U-boats for 76,090 tons of Allied shipping
[194307] Monthly losses: 37 U-boats for 237,777 tons of Allied shipping
[194308] Monthly losses: 25 U-boats for 92,443 tons of Allied shipping
[194309] Monthly losses: 9 U-boats for 98,852 tons of Allied shipping
[194310] Monthly losses: 26 U-boats for 91,295 tons of Allied shipping
[194311] Monthly losses: 19 U-boats for 30,726 tons of Allied shipping
[194312] Monthly losses: 8 U-boats for 55,794 tons of Allied shipping
[194401] Monthly losses: 15 U-boats for 74,816 tons of Allied shipping
[194402] Monthly losses: 20 U-boats for 66,043 tons of Allied shipping
[194403] Monthly losses: 25 U-boats for 94,721 tons of Allied shipping
[194404] Monthly losses: 21 U-boats for 62,149 tons of Allied shipping
[194405] Monthly losses: 23 U-boats for 24,423 tons of Allied shipping
[194406] Monthly losses: 25 U-boats for 57,406 tons of Allied shipping
[194407] Monthly losses: 23 U-boats for 61,395 tons of Allied shipping
[194408] Monthly losses: 34 U-boats for 91,454 tons of Allied shipping
[194409] Monthly losses: 23 U-boats for 50,790 tons of Allied shipping
[194410] Monthly losses: 12 U-boats for 1,659 tons of Allied shipping
[194411] Monthly losses: 8 U-boats for 25,193 tons of Allied shipping
[194412] Monthly losses: 12 U-boats for 53,268 tons of Allied shipping
[194501] Monthly losses: 12 U-boats for 67,410 tons of Allied shipping
[194502] Monthly losses: 22 U-boats for 75,911 tons of Allied shipping
[194503] Monthly losses: 34 U-boat for 65,901 tons of Allied shipping
[194504] Monthly losses: 57 U-boats for 65,532 tons of Allied shipping

Total: 563 U-boats for 2,135,367 tons of Allied shipping

The General · 01-20-10, 08:07 PM

Did a U-boat sink any major military targets after May 1943?

Iron Budokan · 01-21-10, 02:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JScones

Stats from April 1943 to April 1945...

[194304] Monthly losses: 15 U-boats for 287,137 tons of Allied shipping
[194305] Monthly losses: 41 U-boats for 237,182 tons of Allied shipping
[194306] Monthly losses: 17 U-boats for 76,090 tons of Allied shipping
[194307] Monthly losses: 37 U-boats for 237,777 tons of Allied shipping
[194308] Monthly losses: 25 U-boats for 92,443 tons of Allied shipping
[194309] Monthly losses: 9 U-boats for 98,852 tons of Allied shipping
[194310] Monthly losses: 26 U-boats for 91,295 tons of Allied shipping
[194311] Monthly losses: 19 U-boats for 30,726 tons of Allied shipping
[194312] Monthly losses: 8 U-boats for 55,794 tons of Allied shipping
[194401] Monthly losses: 15 U-boats for 74,816 tons of Allied shipping
[194402] Monthly losses: 20 U-boats for 66,043 tons of Allied shipping
[194403] Monthly losses: 25 U-boats for 94,721 tons of Allied shipping
[194404] Monthly losses: 21 U-boats for 62,149 tons of Allied shipping
[194405] Monthly losses: 23 U-boats for 24,423 tons of Allied shipping
[194406] Monthly losses: 25 U-boats for 57,406 tons of Allied shipping
[194407] Monthly losses: 23 U-boats for 61,395 tons of Allied shipping
[194408] Monthly losses: 34 U-boats for 91,454 tons of Allied shipping
[194409] Monthly losses: 23 U-boats for 50,790 tons of Allied shipping
[194410] Monthly losses: 12 U-boats for 1,659 tons of Allied shipping
[194411] Monthly losses: 8 U-boats for 25,193 tons of Allied shipping
[194412] Monthly losses: 12 U-boats for 53,268 tons of Allied shipping
[194501] Monthly losses: 12 U-boats for 67,410 tons of Allied shipping
[194502] Monthly losses: 22 U-boats for 75,911 tons of Allied shipping
[194503] Monthly losses: 34 U-boat for 65,901 tons of Allied shipping
[194504] Monthly losses: 57 U-boats for 65,532 tons of Allied shipping

Total: 563 U-boats for 2,135,367 tons of Allied shipping

Wow, I guess the Devs are right. Hardly anything of worth happened at all.

Mikhayl · 01-20-10, 08:06 PM

You're right Jaesen, and I just saw a couple of those posts

Historically post May '43 is significant, but in terms of gameplay IMO it's not as interesting as earlier because it's very one-sided and fairly linear until the end. In 1939 you experience the relative domination, then the slow downward spiral, and the huge battles until May 43, it's pretty varied.

Now, given that SH5 puts the emphasis on being a "real" captain and the "Das Boot experience", I think it's not outragous to end in May '43.
If you made it from 1939 through Black May, BdU would have most likely sent you to a desk job, or an actor career in some propaganda u-boot movies

01-20-10, 07:51 PM	#2
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01-20-10, 08:03 PM	#3
JScones Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 5,501 Downloads: 19 Uploads: 0	Stats from April 1943 to April 1945... [194304] Monthly losses: 15 U-boats for 287,137 tons of Allied shipping [194305] Monthly losses: 41 U-boats for 237,182 tons of Allied shipping [194306] Monthly losses: 17 U-boats for 76,090 tons of Allied shipping [194307] Monthly losses: 37 U-boats for 237,777 tons of Allied shipping [194308] Monthly losses: 25 U-boats for 92,443 tons of Allied shipping [194309] Monthly losses: 9 U-boats for 98,852 tons of Allied shipping [194310] Monthly losses: 26 U-boats for 91,295 tons of Allied shipping [194311] Monthly losses: 19 U-boats for 30,726 tons of Allied shipping [194312] Monthly losses: 8 U-boats for 55,794 tons of Allied shipping [194401] Monthly losses: 15 U-boats for 74,816 tons of Allied shipping [194402] Monthly losses: 20 U-boats for 66,043 tons of Allied shipping [194403] Monthly losses: 25 U-boats for 94,721 tons of Allied shipping [194404] Monthly losses: 21 U-boats for 62,149 tons of Allied shipping [194405] Monthly losses: 23 U-boats for 24,423 tons of Allied shipping [194406] Monthly losses: 25 U-boats for 57,406 tons of Allied shipping [194407] Monthly losses: 23 U-boats for 61,395 tons of Allied shipping [194408] Monthly losses: 34 U-boats for 91,454 tons of Allied shipping [194409] Monthly losses: 23 U-boats for 50,790 tons of Allied shipping [194410] Monthly losses: 12 U-boats for 1,659 tons of Allied shipping [194411] Monthly losses: 8 U-boats for 25,193 tons of Allied shipping [194412] Monthly losses: 12 U-boats for 53,268 tons of Allied shipping [194501] Monthly losses: 12 U-boats for 67,410 tons of Allied shipping [194502] Monthly losses: 22 U-boats for 75,911 tons of Allied shipping [194503] Monthly losses: 34 U-boat for 65,901 tons of Allied shipping [194504] Monthly losses: 57 U-boats for 65,532 tons of Allied shipping Total: 563 U-boats for 2,135,367 tons of Allied shipping Last edited by JScones; 01-20-10 at 08:21 PM.

01-20-10, 08:07 PM	#4
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01-20-10, 08:06 PM	#6
Mikhayl Captain Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 485 Downloads: 64 Uploads: 0	You're right Jaesen, and I just saw a couple of those posts Historically post May '43 is significant, but in terms of gameplay IMO it's not as interesting as earlier because it's very one-sided and fairly linear until the end. In 1939 you experience the relative domination, then the slow downward spiral, and the huge battles until May 43, it's pretty varied. Now, given that SH5 puts the emphasis on being a "real" captain and the "Das Boot experience", I think it's not outragous to end in May '43. If you made it from 1939 through Black May, BdU would have most likely sent you to a desk job, or an actor career in some propaganda u-boot movies