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Old 07-25-05, 02:05 AM   #1
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@Terrapin: For a person that is against Seewolfe you are sure doing a lot of media coverage for them
First: I wasn't against Seawolves until I had proof of things I don't want to support...

Then: It's a problem inherent in journalism...shall we investigate bad things and publish them (and therefore risk to do PR for the 'bad guys'), or shall we just ignore things (and risk nobody ever learns what's going on...)?

We could discuss t h i s issue endlessly...is CNN or BBC (or whoever) guilty doing PR for terrorists just because they're reporting about incidents and political backgrounds?

NOT that I'm comparing X1 in anyway with terrorists - but the problem for the reporting side seems similar to me.

I'm not the kind of person posting or publishing without evaluating the effects first; it's up to the readers and visitors to decide wether I'm doing a bad or good job. Judged from my stats my site must have at least some interesting things...
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Old 07-25-05, 02:17 AM   #2
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@Terrapin: For a person that is against Seewolfe you are sure doing a lot of media coverage for them
First: I wasn't against Seawolves until I had proof of things I don't want to support...

Then: It's a problem inherent in journalism...shall we investigate bad things and publish them (and therefore risk to do PR for the 'bad guys'), or shall we just ignore things (and risk nobody ever learns what's going on...)?

We could discuss t h i s issue endlessly...is CNN or BBC (or whoever) guilty doing PR for terrorists just because they're reporting about incidents and political backgrounds?

NOT that I'm comparing X1 in anyway with terrorists - but the problem for the reporting side seems similar to me.

I'm not the kind of person posting or publishing without evaluating the effects first; it's up to the readers and visitors to decide wether I'm doing a bad or good job. Judged from my stats my site must have at least some interesting things...
I think your doing a good job to get the word out that Seewolves are bunch of pirates. Great site by the way.
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Old 07-25-05, 03:24 AM   #3
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@Drebbel,
certainly there's X1 mentioned in this, but what is mentioned is that seemingly each and every mod in this "expansion" has not been made by X1 and can be downloaded for free via Internet - i would not call this "advertisement", at least not for this X1
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Old 07-25-05, 06:10 AM   #4
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I've just read the locked thread, including opening the pornographic link while I'm at work

This OSSI, and the whole Seewolfe saga disgusts me
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Old 07-25-05, 06:25 AM   #5
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Can you please post a full list of the mods they have included? My Interior Textures as well?
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Old 07-25-05, 06:29 AM   #6
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Can you please post a full list of the mods they have included? My Interior Textures as well?

I didn't - nor do I - have the time to evaluate all data. PM me what files you are looking for...
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Old 07-25-05, 06:34 AM   #7
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Ail just posted on the Ubi forum that he did not give permission for commercial use of his mods to anyone and is rather peeved that someone would have the nerve to do this.

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Old 07-25-05, 06:39 AM   #8
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Ail just posted on the Ubi forum that he did not give permission for commercial use of his mods to anyone and is rather peeved that someone would have the nerve to do this.

Another satisfied customer!
Yeah, read that...If anyone inhere has the time to crawl through the complete data of 'Seawolves' comparing it with previously released material, I'd appreciate reports inhere (or, if public discussion should not be appreciated by Neil or the moderators, privately at my known addresses)
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Old 07-25-05, 06:48 AM   #9
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Aah...going through our 'unread messages' folder I just noticed we got mail from 'Ossi'. He's threatening - in rather bad German - to sue us...

The more he announced he 'won't be informing us ever again regarding future X1 releases'.


Rest assured: I'll try MY best to inform YOU about...'future X1 releases'.
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Old 07-25-05, 06:50 AM   #10
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He's threatening - in rather bad German
Gee. Can't even get that right!
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Old 07-25-05, 07:42 AM   #11
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So is OSSI going to get a court order to force SUBSIM to give up the IPs of all the posters? So he can find out who claims to have knowledge of "his" products content?
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Old 07-25-05, 07:45 AM   #12
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Ha it is he who shall recieve the court order.
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Old 07-25-05, 10:03 AM   #13
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Can you please post a full list of the mods they have included? My Interior Textures as well?

I didn't - nor do I - have the time to evaluate all data. PM me what files you are looking for...
I'll have to see what I can come up with.

Forensic analysis is fun.

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Old 07-25-05, 10:25 AM   #14
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This reminds me of a time I created an application for Ravenshield in order to help making maps easier. Someone took my program and put it on EBAY for $20.00.

Took me awhile to get it straighted out and to get it off.
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Old 07-25-05, 10:57 AM   #15
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There is a sticky in the official forums:

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It is not an official add-on, there is no deal between Ubisoft and X1SOFTWARE. The legal team at Ubisoft have been aware of the product for a while, I can assure you that.
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