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Letum · 06-04-09, 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Aramike

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For whom is it a greater tradgedy?

But that's never been the question, has it?

well if there isn't a person for whom the tragedy is greater, then how can
the tragedy be greater?

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Loss of human life = Tragedy.
2 Million > 2 thousand

As such, the loss of 2 million human lives is a greater tragedy then the loss of 2 thousand.

I would say:

Loss of human life = Tragedy for the person losing the life and his
friends/family and anyone else effected by the loss only.
That the loss happened to many other people and their respective
friends/family and anyone else effected by the loss does not compound
the loss for anyone.

You seam to be taking the position of a farmer in my previous, goat
based example.
There is no such position in the real world. It is utterly abstract.

Skybird · 06-04-09, 07:01 PM

You're lost in abstraction, Letum. Where others have too less in their head, you have far too much. You have too much thinking on your mind. That way, reason got lost. You're disconnected. Get back to your senses.

Regarding the past, "past" describes what once has been, but is no more. That truth is a bit too profane to make a huge fuss of it. Events of the past affected people, and mattered for them, and sometimes they still matter today. And no matter wether past or present: for every individual surviving or dying in desaster, it obviously made or makes a difference. the surviving wild goats are alive and did not get killed. without doubt they are better off than the wild goats that got killed, but could have lived on if not having died. Another profanity, isn't it. the farmer is just another entity, calculating the costs and the profits of events as he take note of them.

the genocide in darfhur still takes place in the present. Some revenge-massacre by the SS in some Italian village took place in the past. Both do not directly affect me. But still, it is valid to say that the genocide in present Darfhur represents a greater massacre or crime than the the past massmurder in that Italian village. Becasue in Darfhur, over one million people got killed so far, and in that Italian village let'S say 280.

Keep it simple.

Letum · 06-04-09, 07:45 PM

Personal comments aside...

I don't understand where the paragraph about the past game from.
I only mentioned the past because it is the only time that either-or events
can not be, although in hindsight, that does not help matters because they
are replaced by 'what-if's.

06-04-09, 07:01 PM	#2
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,765 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	You're lost in abstraction, Letum. Where others have too less in their head, you have far too much. You have too much thinking on your mind. That way, reason got lost. You're disconnected. Get back to your senses. Regarding the past, "past" describes what once has been, but is no more. That truth is a bit too profane to make a huge fuss of it. Events of the past affected people, and mattered for them, and sometimes they still matter today. And no matter wether past or present: for every individual surviving or dying in desaster, it obviously made or makes a difference. the surviving wild goats are alive and did not get killed. without doubt they are better off than the wild goats that got killed, but could have lived on if not having died. Another profanity, isn't it. the farmer is just another entity, calculating the costs and the profits of events as he take note of them. the genocide in darfhur still takes place in the present. Some revenge-massacre by the SS in some Italian village took place in the past. Both do not directly affect me. But still, it is valid to say that the genocide in present Darfhur represents a greater massacre or crime than the the past massmurder in that Italian village. Becasue in Darfhur, over one million people got killed so far, and in that Italian village let'S say 280. Keep it simple. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

06-04-09, 07:45 PM	#3
Letum Navy Seal Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: York - UK Posts: 6,079 Downloads: 43 Uploads: 0	Personal comments aside... I don't understand where the paragraph about the past game from. I only mentioned the past because it is the only time that either-or events can not be, although in hindsight, that does not help matters because they are replaced by 'what-if's. __________________ Last edited by Letum; 06-04-09 at 07:57 PM.