SS 166/67/68 deck guns

[NEON DEON]

For all you submarine gun gurus out there (me included), I hope they model the Argonaut, Narwhal, and Nautilis Deck guns.

6"/53 mark 15 naval guns

Some highlights.

ROF: 8.5 to 10 seconds

Range: 20,670 m. Can you see that far?

Penetration: 4" at 7500 m.

Ammo per gun: 360 (thats right 720 rounds!) OMG the exploitation is mind boggeling

Anyways here is the link for complete specs on the gun.

http://www.navweaps.com/Weapons/WNUS_6-53_mk12.htm

[FAdmiral]

Those 6" guns were developed during the WW1 era.
By the time WW2 came around, these were used instead:

http://www.navweaps.com/Weapons/WNUS_6-47_mk16.htm


JIM

[NEON DEON]

Originally Posted by FAdmiral

Those 6" guns were developed during the WW1 era.
By the time WW2 came around, these were used instead:

http://www.navweaps.com/Weapons/WNUS_6-47_mk16.htm


JIM

Yes very nice rapid fire big bang for the buck cruiser guns.

But, the gun on the SS 166/167/168 cruiser subs were the 6" 53s.

The guns you speak of were mounted on WWII Light cruisers like Brooklyn and Cleveland classes.

First came across those while playing TF1942. I used to love the Brooklyn class crusiers with 15 6" rapid fire guns mounted in 5 turrets.

Penetration: 4" at 7500 m.

1) AP and HC projectiles were carried by cruisers while common rounds were carried by submarines.

The common round is only going to penetrate about 1" of real armor. No problems with merchants, though.

Those 6" guns were developed during the WW1 era.
By the time WW2 came around, these were used instead:

These guns were used to arm the Brooklyn and Cleveland class light cruisers, the latter being the most numerous class of cruisers ever built.

The submarines still used the older guns.

[NEON DEON]

There are are two penetration charts listed. One for AP and one for common.

This is the chart for common.

Armor Penetration with 105 lbs. (47.6 kg) Common Shell used on Submarines.
RangeSide ArmorDeck Armor8,200 yards (7,500 m)4.0" (102 mm)---12,200 yards (11,160 m)3.0" (76 mm)---17,000 yards (15,540 m)2.0" (51 mm)---19,400 yards (17,740 m)---1.0" (25 mm)22,600 yards (20,670 m)---1.5" (38 mm)Note: These figures are taken from armor penetration curves published in 1942.

You're absolutely right; usually there is only one. Now for the problem: the common chart has better penetrations thant the AP chart. The standard common rating for all shells is 1/3 of the shell's diameter, at 1000 yards.

I'll take a look in my copy of Naval Weapons Of World War Two tonight, to see what it says. That's the website's primary source.