FFG countermeasures vs fish?

CptSimFreak · 10-22-05, 11:13 PM

Does FFG have active or passive countermeasures against fish?

TLAM Strike · 10-22-05, 11:23 PM

Other than the Nixie no.

Molon Labe · 10-23-05, 12:22 AM

Every once in awhile I swear AI FFG's will drop an over-the-side CM. It freaks me out.

MaHuJa · 10-23-05, 03:15 AM

Playing the new demo, I followed a fish shot at the ffg with show truth on. It looked as if there was a decoy out behind him that the torpedo homed on, but it seemed to move with the ship, so that was probably just the nixie now shown or something.

LuftWolf · 10-23-05, 03:16 AM

Yes, that is the Nixie. It is shown as a separate object dragged behind the ship with "show truth" on.

Mau · 10-23-05, 07:26 AM

But yes we should have CM onboard FFG like in RL.
It is a bit unfair that they don't, don't you think?

That was actuallly a question I was asking to myself some times ago

Fish · 10-23-05, 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by CptSimFreak

Does FFG have active or passive countermeasures against fish?

Why should she have any thing against me?

Tgio · 10-23-05, 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Fish

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Originally Posted by CptSimFreak

Does FFG have active or passive countermeasures against fish?

Why should she have any thing against me?

:rotfl: :rotfl:

SeaQueen · 10-23-05, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by CptSimFreak

Does FFG have active or passive countermeasures against fish?

They have NIXIE and a great big turbine engine. Speed is probably your best defense against torpedos.

CptSimFreak · 10-23-05, 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Mau

But yes we should have CM onboard FFG like in RL.
It is a bit unfair that they don't, don't you think?

That was actuallly a question I was asking to myself some times ago

Thatâ€™s the reason for my subdued question. If it does have countermeasures IRL, why does it not have in DW?

Itâ€™s just a bit hard to run away from a fish going 55 while FFG can only do 29. Nixie is almost useless as no nixie

CptSimFreak · 10-23-05, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Fish

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Originally Posted by CptSimFreak

Does FFG have active or passive countermeasures against fish?

Why should she have any thing against me?

Because your actions are always hostile towards me. :P

LuftWolf · 10-23-05, 11:22 AM

No over-the-side CM's on American surface ships in Real Life.

US warships rely on the NIXIE for torpedo defense. Note: this is not effective against wakehoming torpedos. Your best defense against wakehomers is evasion and/or slowing down at the right time.

DivingWind · 10-23-05, 11:57 AM

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Every once in awhile I swear AI FFG's will drop an over-the-side CM.

Believe it or not,AI drops bouy to evade torps!

LuftWolf · 10-23-05, 12:02 PM

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Believe it or not,AI drops bouy to evade torps!

The doctrines don't suggest that this would be happening.

It's probably dropping the buoy for some reason other than trying to spoof the torpedo.

This is another aspect of AI behavior that seems to be hardcoded, as I can't find the doctrine that controls buoy dropping for surface platforms either, so the secret is locked somewhere in the engine.

Maybe it's dropping the buoy so it can track the torpedo during high speed evasion? That's actually not a bad tactic to employ on the human-controlled FFG. :hmm:

Mau · 10-23-05, 01:34 PM

..Yes that is actually what is really happenening.
Hearing torpedo in the water, drop a sonobuoy to know where it is so then you know where to turn.

And, I am pretty sure the US have and use as well off board CM like we are using in our navy

10-22-05, 11:13 PM	#1
CptSimFreak Frogman Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 291 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	FFG countermeasures vs fish? Does FFG have active or passive countermeasures against fish?

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TLAM Strike Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Rochester, New York Posts: 8,633 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 6	Other than the Nixie no. __________________

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LuftWolf Ocean Warrior Join Date: May 2005 Location: Free New York Posts: 3,167 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	Yes, that is the Nixie. It is shown as a separate object dragged behind the ship with "show truth" on. __________________ LW

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LuftWolf Ocean Warrior Join Date: May 2005 Location: Free New York Posts: 3,167 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	No over-the-side CM's on American surface ships in Real Life. US warships rely on the NIXIE for torpedo defense. Note: this is not effective against wakehoming torpedos. Your best defense against wakehomers is evasion and/or slowing down at the right time. __________________ LW

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10-23-05, 12:22 AM	#3
Molon Labe Silent Hunter Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Along the Watchtower Posts: 3,810 Downloads: 27 Uploads: 5	Every once in awhile I swear AI FFG's will drop an over-the-side CM. It freaks me out.

10-23-05, 03:15 AM	#4
MaHuJa Sonar Guy Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: 59.96156N 11.02255E Posts: 385 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 0	Playing the new demo, I followed a fish shot at the ffg with show truth on. It looked as if there was a decoy out behind him that the torpedo homed on, but it seemed to move with the ship, so that was probably just the nixie now shown or something.

10-23-05, 07:26 AM	#6
Mau Sonar Guy Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 382 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 0	But yes we should have CM onboard FFG like in RL. It is a bit unfair that they don't, don't you think? That was actuallly a question I was asking to myself some times ago

10-23-05, 01:34 PM	#15
Mau Sonar Guy Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 382 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 0	..Yes that is actually what is really happenening. Hearing torpedo in the water, drop a sonobuoy to know where it is so then you know where to turn. And, I am pretty sure the US have and use as well off board CM like we are using in our navy