The ethical dilemma with the overpopulation

mapuc · 08-25-21, 02:35 PM

We are way to many on this planet-That's for sure, but it generate some
ethical dilemmas.

1. How many billion is to much ?
This generate the most important question and the most ethical dilemma of them all
2. Who shall be removed-Who shall have the bad luck to be eradicated and who shall have the luck to stay ??

Markus

Skybird · 08-25-21, 03:34 PM

1. From all what I have red over the past thirty years or so, from oceanography over ecology and geography to futurology and many topics and issues and threads inbetween and from many different people and many different branches, I would form an amalgamised assumption of that this planet, if we treat every human equal regarding living standards and rights to consume, this planet can deal with the garbarge-production of and the ressource-consummation of around maybe 1 to 1.5 billion people, if people should be able to indeed live with a minimum degree of material freedom, instead of just existing while suffering and facing daily bitter fight for survival, food, and health-keeping.

2. Since man is unwilling and also maybe unable to limit his race's growth by himself and intentionally, nature will take care of it herself, by pandemics, natural desasters, wars, increasing lacking food production, mass starvations, etc etc. No need to draw lots.

Ethical dilemma? That term is a conception which is an invention by man, so for him it might be that. But for nature it surely is not. She does not care at all, and can be seen as totally fascist by core and essence. Survival of the group/race/species is evertyhing: Individual fate and suffering means nothing.

Thats a grim realisation. Terrence Malick, in his movie "Tree of Life", therefore lets the narrator from the off tell the audience this: that he was told by the nuns who taught him at school that there are two ways through this life: the way of justice (one could call it causality-centred karma), which is nature's way, and the way of grace/mercy. Which is, I must add, humans' conception: to make this grim life bearable.

Devils and angels, the dark and the light, saints and sinners: we are both, everyone of us.

Platapus · 08-25-21, 04:02 PM

Nature will handle this for us.

The most important thing is that humanity can't be allowed to spread to other planets.

Catfish · 08-25-21, 04:08 PM

^ I guess we don't need to intervene to stop this.

Platapus · 08-25-21, 04:17 PM

Nope. Nature is very good at correcting mistakes. It may take a long time though.

d@rk51d3 · 08-25-21, 05:26 PM

August · 08-28-21, 09:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Platapus

The most important thing is that humanity can't be allowed to spread to other planets.

Your species self hatred is striking. Seems to be a common theme for you bud. Maybe you should show us on the doll where the evil Humans touched you...

Sean C · 08-28-21, 11:46 PM

Seems like all you need to do is come up with some life-threatening activity and then make it a "challenge" on tic-tac or whatever. I've seen dozens of videos on other forums lately of people cracking their skulls trying to climb milk crates. Seems like only yesterday people were literally lighting themselves on fire.

em2nought · 08-29-21, 12:39 AM

Looks like they're gonna start with euthanizing old white people.

https://www.euronews.com/2021/08/26/...ing-euthanasia

08-25-21, 02:35 PM	#1
mapuc CINC Pacific Fleet Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Denmark Posts: 20,604 Downloads: 37 Uploads: 0	The ethical dilemma with the overpopulation We are way to many on this planet-That's for sure, but it generate some ethical dilemmas. 1. How many billion is to much ? This generate the most important question and the most ethical dilemma of them all 2. Who shall be removed-Who shall have the bad luck to be eradicated and who shall have the luck to stay ?? Markus __________________ My little lovely female cat

08-25-21, 03:34 PM	#2
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,764 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	1. From all what I have red over the past thirty years or so, from oceanography over ecology and geography to futurology and many topics and issues and threads inbetween and from many different people and many different branches, I would form an amalgamised assumption of that this planet, if we treat every human equal regarding living standards and rights to consume, this planet can deal with the garbarge-production of and the ressource-consummation of around maybe 1 to 1.5 billion people, if people should be able to indeed live with a minimum degree of material freedom, instead of just existing while suffering and facing daily bitter fight for survival, food, and health-keeping. 2. Since man is unwilling and also maybe unable to limit his race's growth by himself and intentionally, nature will take care of it herself, by pandemics, natural desasters, wars, increasing lacking food production, mass starvations, etc etc. No need to draw lots. Ethical dilemma? That term is a conception which is an invention by man, so for him it might be that. But for nature it surely is not. She does not care at all, and can be seen as totally fascist by core and essence. Survival of the group/race/species is evertyhing: Individual fate and suffering means nothing. Thats a grim realisation. Terrence Malick, in his movie "Tree of Life", therefore lets the narrator from the off tell the audience this: that he was told by the nuns who taught him at school that there are two ways through this life: the way of justice (one could call it causality-centred karma), which is nature's way, and the way of grace/mercy. Which is, I must add, humans' conception: to make this grim life bearable. Devils and angels, the dark and the light, saints and sinners: we are both, everyone of us. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert. Last edited by Skybird; 08-25-21 at 03:47 PM.

08-25-21, 04:02 PM	#3
Platapus Fleet Admiral Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 19,424 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 0	Nature will handle this for us. The most important thing is that humanity can't be allowed to spread to other planets. __________________ abusus non tollit usum - A right should NOT be withheld from people on the basis that some tend to abuse that right.

08-25-21, 04:08 PM	#4
Catfish Dipped Squirrel Operative Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: ..where the ocean meets the sky Posts: 17,819 Downloads: 38 Uploads: 0	^ I guess we don't need to intervene to stop this. __________________ >^..^<*)))>{ All generalizations are wrong.

08-25-21, 04:17 PM	#5
Platapus Fleet Admiral Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 19,424 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 0	Nope. Nature is very good at correcting mistakes. It may take a long time though. __________________ abusus non tollit usum - A right should NOT be withheld from people on the basis that some tend to abuse that right.

08-25-21, 05:26 PM	#6
d@rk51d3 Sea Lord Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Adelaide, South Australia Posts: 1,954 Downloads: 207 Uploads: 0

08-28-21, 11:46 PM	#8
Sean C Grey Wolf Join Date: Jun 2017 Location: Norfolk, VA Posts: 988 Downloads: 16 Uploads: 2	Seems like all you need to do is come up with some life-threatening activity and then make it a "challenge" on tic-tac or whatever. I've seen dozens of videos on other forums lately of people cracking their skulls trying to climb milk crates. Seems like only yesterday people were literally lighting themselves on fire. __________________ If you have a question about celestial navigation ... ask me! Celestial Navigation Spreadsheet

08-29-21, 12:39 AM	#9
em2nought Ocean Warrior Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 3,485 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Looks like they're gonna start with euthanizing old white people. https://www.euronews.com/2021/08/26/...ing-euthanasia __________________ em2nought is ecstatic garbage!

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