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Old 07-19-13, 06:18 PM   #1
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Default Paranoid cops in Texas? Open-Carry violation.




No probable cause to detain him or disarm him. He was just walking with is his rifle. It's his right to carry a firearm in this country. Don't care if the cops got "a call" or not. False arrest as well.
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Old 07-19-13, 06:37 PM   #2
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Saw that one some time ago. Cops knew they were in the wrong and invented an excuse to haul the guy off.
I would love to see a follow up on the incident.
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Old 07-19-13, 06:42 PM   #3
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I've watched them all. I open carry all the time when detecting, been stopped and sometimes harassed, but I don't carry a rifle to make a statement on youtube.
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Old 07-19-13, 07:23 PM   #4
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Yeah I saw that one awhile too. If memory serves correctly, I think the story I read was he was participating in some Boy scout activity, and was not in any urban area at the time of the incident. The video would seem to collaborate some of that, because there didn't look like there was a lot of people around, and he looked like he was on some country road, with day hiking equipment on.

Anywho, i think his biggest mistake was he lost his cool. The instant you pop off to a cop, it will all go downhill from there. Once he gave them an attitude, the outcome was predetermined.

As an aside, unless im at the range, or out in BFE target shooting, or actively hunting, i don't open carry because I just don't normally carry a rifle or shotgun otherwise. As for handguns, I have a IWB holster and a CFP if i feel the need.
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Old 07-19-13, 09:17 PM   #5
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This goes back to the whole responsibility thing on firearms ownership....

There are people that do this JUST to interact with le and create videos - and you know what - in doing that they are acting irresponsibly. A firearm is a right AND a responsibility - and they are showing they are not up to that side of it.

There is no purpose in it other than to try and get harassed. Guess what - if you go looking for trouble, trouble will find you. That doesn't mean the cops were in the right, but he was just as much in the wrong.

Open carry is a legal right in many states. Then again - carrying whether OC or CC is generally done for defensive purposes or to exercise your 2A rights. Those are fine - but doing so just to get a youtube video .....
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Old 07-19-13, 10:02 PM   #6
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This goes back to the whole responsibility thing on firearms ownership....

There are people that do this JUST to interact with le and create videos - and you know what - in doing that they are acting irresponsibly. A firearm is a right AND a responsibility - and they are showing they are not up to that side of it.

There is no purpose in it other than to try and get harassed. Guess what - if you go looking for trouble, trouble will find you. That doesn't mean the cops were in the right, but he was just as much in the wrong.

Open carry is a legal right in many states. Then again - carrying whether OC or CC is generally done for defensive purposes or to exercise your 2A rights. Those are fine - but doing so just to get a youtube video .....
Nobody should be getting stopped by the police at all for simply carrying a firearm in this country. It's a constitutional right. So tired of cops stopping people and asking them for their papers. This is not Nazi Germany and if there's no reason to suspect the person carry the weapon has committed a criminal offense there's no probable cause to stop them and doing so if a violation of that persons rights and is actually a criminal offense by the police. They should tell these people who call to complain that it's a right to carry a firearm in this country and inform them that if they have witnessed the person committing a crime then that's a different matter.
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