Supreme Court OKs warrantless searches

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WASHINGTON — The Supreme Court on Monday gave police more leeway to break into homes or apartments in search of illegal drugs when they suspect the evidence might be destroyed.
The justices said officers who smell marijuana and loudly knock on the door may break in if they hear sounds that suggest the residents are scurrying to hide the drugs.
Residents who "attempt to destroy evidence have only themselves to blame" when police burst in, Justice Samuel Alito said for an 8-1 majority.
In dissent, Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg wrote that she feared the ruling in a Kentucky case had handed the police an important new tool.
"The court today arms the police with a way routinely to dishonor the Fourth Amendment's warrant requirement in drug cases," Ginsburg wrote. "In lieu of presenting their evidence to a neutral magistrate, police officers may now knock, listen, then break the door down, never mind that they had ample time to obtain a warrant."
She said the Fourth Amendment's "core requirement" is that officers have probable cause and a search warrant before they break into a house.
"How 'secure' do our homes remain if police, armed with no warrant, can pound on doors at will and ... forcibly enter?" Ginsburg asked.
An expert on criminal searches agreed, saying the decision would encourage police to undertake "knock and talk" raids.
"I'm surprised the Supreme Court would condone this, that if the police hear suspicious noises inside, they can break in," said John Wesley Hall, a criminal-defense lawyer in Little Rock, Ark. "I'm even more surprised that nearly all of them went along."
The court in the past has insisted that homes are special preserves. As Alito said, the Fourth Amendment "has drawn a firm line at the entrance to the house." One exception to the search-warrant rule involves an emergency, such as screams coming from a house. Police also may pursue a fleeing suspect who enters a residence.
The Kentucky case arose from a mistake. After seeing a drug deal in a parking lot, Lexington police officers rushed into an apartment complex looking for a suspect who had sold cocaine to an informant.
But the smell of burning marijuana led them to the wrong apartment. After knocking and announcing themselves, they heard sounds that they said made them fear that evidence was being destroyed. They kicked the door in and found marijuana and cocaine but not the original suspect.


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[gimpy117]

Isn't that probable cause?

you smell weed, hear people scurrying around inside. If it would be in my car and they smelled beer (for example) they would be able to search it...I can see how this applies to the situation. Simple fact, don't do anything illegal unless you aren't afraid of getting caught

[Molon Labe]

Let's face it, the Founders did a great job on the Constitution, but when it came to drafting the 4th Amendment they pretty much just @#$% on the page.

[Kazuaki Shimazaki II]

Originally Posted by gimpy117

Isn't that probable cause?

you smell weed, hear people scurrying around inside. If it would be in my car and they smelled beer (for example) they would be able to search it...I can see how this applies to the situation. Simple fact, don't do anything illegal unless you aren't afraid of getting caught

Add "claim to think" to before every item you just mentioned (e.g. "you (police) claim to smell weed"). Perhaps the problem will be clearer.

[Rockstar]

There is nothing new about warrantless searches and seizures. A certain Federal agency has been doing it since 1790.

[mookiemookie]

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=183688

[August]

Originally Posted by mookiemookie

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=183688

That's about a state ruling. This is SCOTUS. Far more disturbing.

[kraznyi_oktjabr]

Originally Posted by Rockstar

There is nothing new about warrantless searches and seizures. A certain Federal agency has been doing it since 1790.

I assume this agency is U.S. Marshals. Am I correct?

[Rockstar]

It began as the Revenue Cutter Service under Alexander Hamilton and is now known as the United States Coast Guard.

Warrant-less searches and seizure DO NOT under any circumstance relieve the officer from having to articulate what they did and why.




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