Engaging task force with S-18

Elektroniikka-Asentaja · 02-15-11, 12:23 PM

Ahoy!

After reinstalling the game I decided to play a bit vanilla without any tweaks (ya ya.. No need for the blabbering about TMO and stuff, I know I should use them).

I'm now roaming around with a lovely diesel piggie and met enemy task force near manilla (1941 just after manilla invasion). I saved as I feared that I'll screw up, especially now when I have more realism than usually. And so I did.

The task force contains 3 akizuki DDs, 3 Takao heavy cruisers and 3 small passenger carriers. What should I do? It's not a mission impossible but as I have only 4 tubes I most likely will spend a moment out there..

The TF is moving directly to south on my course as I'm moving directly to north, bad positioning..

Happy hunting!

commandosolo2009 · 02-15-11, 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Elektroniikka-Asentaja

The task force contains 3 akizuki DDs, 3 Takao heavy cruisers and 3 small passenger carriers. What should I do? The TF is moving directly to south on my course as I'm moving directly to north, bad positioning..

Happy hunting!

The first thing it to determine their base course, so If you fail at first you loop around and start over. The second thing is to start hydrophone tracking. Thirdly, if they're in reach, you need to determine their configuration.

On a 100% difficulty, it will be tad difficult without contacts on. However, an estimate is more likely.

Try to go within their center, and stay low past the middle escort below the thermocline (variable but once informed stay below it with 15 meters safe depth). Once he crosses you, input the firing solution, bring up to periscope depth, and open outer doors once in shooting depth. Yo-yo periscope for observations and correct PK as necessary. When you're satisfied with the firing solution, bring up scope for the shooting bearing, mark, set, fire!

Down scope, dive to crash depth and sail opposite base course.

Rinse and repeat over base course.

Good luck

Diopos · 02-15-11, 01:51 PM

Avoid engaging them in the shallows.
Establish/verify the depth of the thermocline before you engage.
Small passenger carriers don't worth the risk (gamewise). If I went in, I'd go for a cruiser if possible.

I almost always start my careers in S-boats and I'm always glad when I get a "proper" fleetboat!

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Bubblehead1980 · 02-15-11, 02:09 PM

Played this battle out a few times, most difficult in an S-Boat on high realism due to low surface speed compared tot he fleet boats.Good news if you have more reliable torpedos.

Also, the small passenger carriers are troopships, thus carrying invasion troops, definitely high priority targets.

Elektroniikka-Asentaja · 02-15-11, 02:14 PM

Do you mean that thermal layer stops sonar pings or makes them less effective? I doubt that the boat survives that deep xD

And yea I was going to first attack the cruisers and in case I have any. torps left then mess with the rest.. I would have never asked if I'd have a tambor or something but the truth that I only have 4 tubes is a bit confusing.. I'll give it a go tomorrow, tired skipper isn't an effective skipper

commandosolo2009 · 02-15-11, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Elektroniikka-Asentaja

Do you mean that thermal layer stops sonar pings or makes them less effective? I doubt that the boat survives that deep xD

And yea I was going to first attack the cruisers and in case I have any. torps left then mess with the rest.. I would have never asked if I'd have a tambor or something but the truth that I only have 4 tubes is a bit confusing.. I'll give it a go tomorrow, tired skipper isn't an effective skipper

Thermal layer is the thermocline. Thermocline is a steep gradient (big difference) in temperature recorded by the Bathythermograph. The sonar pinging is scattered as it hits the thermocline, so that in normal situations it would hit the sub and be reflected to destroyers receivers, giving depth and position. Below thermocline, the waves are scattered and little if not nothing is sent back as sonar pong. This is aided by silent routine, slow speed and keeping mechanical friction minimum ( = no cooking, no torpedo loading, no taps on the bulkheads, etc...)

In a nutshell, thermocline makes sonar less effective. Schlaffen sie gut.

Bubblehead1980 · 02-15-11, 08:13 PM

The "depth to keel" button that gives you a ping does not tell you where the thermal layers are, it simply gives you distance to the bottom of the sea.The bathythermograph is included as an auto feature that only the crew operates by informing you when there is a thermal layer.Just a heads up, seems to be some confusion.

02-15-11, 12:23 PM	#1
Elektroniikka-Asentaja Loader Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Hiding from Dowly Posts: 81 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 0	Engaging task force with S-18 Ahoy! After reinstalling the game I decided to play a bit vanilla without any tweaks (ya ya.. No need for the blabbering about TMO and stuff, I know I should use them). I'm now roaming around with a lovely diesel piggie and met enemy task force near manilla (1941 just after manilla invasion). I saved as I feared that I'll screw up, especially now when I have more realism than usually. And so I did. The task force contains 3 akizuki DDs, 3 Takao heavy cruisers and 3 small passenger carriers. What should I do? It's not a mission impossible but as I have only 4 tubes I most likely will spend a moment out there.. The TF is moving directly to south on my course as I'm moving directly to north, bad positioning.. Happy hunting! __________________ Elektroniikka-Asentaja = Electronics Assembler. In finnish, Just in case someone wants to know.. New rig for noisy running: Desktop w/ Asus P5QC motherboard, Intel Core 2 Duo 2,94 GHz processor, ATI Radeon HD 4800 series graphics, 4 GB DDR3 Ram and 1297 GB hard drive memory There is a good possibility that the above post was written with a phone so please forgive the typos

02-15-11, 01:51 PM	#3
Diopos Ace of the Deep Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Athens, the original one. Posts: 1,226 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	Avoid engaging them in the shallows. Establish/verify the depth of the thermocline before you engage. Small passenger carriers don't worth the risk (gamewise). If I went in, I'd go for a cruiser if possible. I almost always start my careers in S-boats and I'm always glad when I get a "proper" fleetboat! . __________________ - Oh God! They're all over the place! CRASH DIVE!!! - Ehm... we can't honey. We're in the car right now. - What?... er right... Doesn't matter! We'll give it a try anyway!

02-15-11, 02:14 PM	#5
Elektroniikka-Asentaja Loader Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Hiding from Dowly Posts: 81 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 0	Do you mean that thermal layer stops sonar pings or makes them less effective? I doubt that the boat survives that deep xD And yea I was going to first attack the cruisers and in case I have any. torps left then mess with the rest.. I would have never asked if I'd have a tambor or something but the truth that I only have 4 tubes is a bit confusing.. I'll give it a go tomorrow, tired skipper isn't an effective skipper __________________ Elektroniikka-Asentaja = Electronics Assembler. In finnish, Just in case someone wants to know.. New rig for noisy running: Desktop w/ Asus P5QC motherboard, Intel Core 2 Duo 2,94 GHz processor, ATI Radeon HD 4800 series graphics, 4 GB DDR3 Ram and 1297 GB hard drive memory There is a good possibility that the above post was written with a phone so please forgive the typos

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02-15-11, 02:09 PM	#4
Bubblehead1980 Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Florida USA Posts: 7,115 Downloads: 605 Uploads: 44	Played this battle out a few times, most difficult in an S-Boat on high realism due to low surface speed compared tot he fleet boats.Good news if you have more reliable torpedos. Also, the small passenger carriers are troopships, thus carrying invasion troops, definitely high priority targets.

02-15-11, 08:13 PM	#7
Bubblehead1980 Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Florida USA Posts: 7,115 Downloads: 605 Uploads: 44	The "depth to keel" button that gives you a ping does not tell you where the thermal layers are, it simply gives you distance to the bottom of the sea.The bathythermograph is included as an auto feature that only the crew operates by informing you when there is a thermal layer.Just a heads up, seems to be some confusion.