Study: 9 out of 10 plane landings just barely make it

Weiss Pinguin · 02-01-11, 10:52 AM

90% of plane landings are just barely pulled off

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WASHINGTON—According to a new study
published by the National Transportation Safety
Board, 90 percent of successful plane landings are
"this close" to ending with the aircraft pinwheeling
down the runway and exploding into a fireball of
twisted metal and charred flesh.

I wonder what our resident pilots have to say about this?

CCIP · 02-01-11, 11:00 AM

I was all

And then I saw the source

While I'm not a pilot, I play one on my ridiculously modded-out Flight Simulator. If there's one thing I learned from it, actually, it's just how amazingly safe air travel is these days. There's really a lot of checks and balances in the whole system to make sure that, apart from some exceptionally severe failures, it's almost impossible for one single thing going wrong to bring down an aircraft. Almost always, it's a whole snowballing combination of unfortunate factors that does so, and there are effective ways of dealing with those before they snowball.

gimpy117 · 02-01-11, 11:04 AM

the onion is trolling again

Jimbuna · 02-01-11, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by CCIP

I was all

And then I saw the source

While I'm not a pilot, I play one on my ridiculously modded-out Flight Simulator. If there's one thing I learned from it, actually, it's just how amazingly safe air travel is these days. There's really a lot of checks and balances in the whole system to make sure that, apart from some exceptionally severe failures, it's almost impossible for one single thing going wrong to bring down an aircraft. Almost always, it's a whole snowballing combination of unfortunate factors that does so, and there are effective ways of dealing with those before they snowball.

Agreed....far more dangerous driving a car or crossing a road.

Mind you...more people survive car crashes and accidents involving pedestrians than those that survive a plane crash

Tchocky · 02-01-11, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by CCIP

Almost always, it's a whole snowballing combination of unfortunate factors that does so, and there are effective ways of dealing with those before they snowball.

Very very true.

A strange coincidence seeing this thread, this morning's class was a couple of hours spent dissecting the Zagreb and Uberlingen mid-air collisions. We ended up identifying no less than 14 separate failures and mistakes in the case of Uberlingen, many completely separate from each other.

Growler · 02-01-11, 11:56 AM

Most car crashes don't involve lots of passengers and several tons of airplane colliding with other, more resilient things like the ground, at relatively high rates of speed. I mean, try dropping your car on its roof at 120 mph and sliding it into a building with forty people on it. I guarantee, that's not gonna end well.

Sailor Steve · 02-01-11, 11:57 AM

I think the biggest problem here is undertrained pilots. According to my studies, a full 30% of them don't know where the ground is, or even what it looks like. This can cause severe problems when trying to land.

Growler · 02-01-11, 12:17 PM

Flying is nothing more than throwing yourself at the ground and missing.

MaddogK · 02-01-11, 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Growler

Flying is nothing more than throwing yourself at the ground and missing.

As long as you're distracted just before you hit the ground.

GoldenRivet · 02-01-11, 12:29 PM

according to my studies... the cause of 100% of plane crashes is the ground.

ETR3(SS) · 02-01-11, 12:56 PM

Hmm, and here I thought this thread was about the Lolwaffles.

Growler · 02-01-11, 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by GoldenRivet

according to my studies... the cause of 100% of plane crashes is the ground.

Wrong. 100% of airplane crashes is pilot error. The guy flying the Earth needs his license yanked, before anyone else is hurt.

Jimbuna · 02-01-11, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Growler

Flying is nothing more than throwing yourself at the ground and missing.

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoldenRivet

according to my studies... the cause of 100% of plane crashes is the ground.

LOL

krashkart · 02-01-11, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by ETR3(SS)

Hmm, and here I thought this thread was about the Lolwaffles.

They must have some fans at The Onion.

Schroeder · 02-01-11, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by ETR3(SS)

Hmm, and here I thought this thread was about the Lolwaffles.

Are you nuts?

Only 89% of our landings cause scrap metal.
Don't compare us with these professional amateurs.

02-01-11, 11:00 AM	#2
CCIP Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Waterloo, Canada Posts: 8,700 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 2	I was all And then I saw the source While I'm not a pilot, I play one on my ridiculously modded-out Flight Simulator. If there's one thing I learned from it, actually, it's just how amazingly safe air travel is these days. There's really a lot of checks and balances in the whole system to make sure that, apart from some exceptionally severe failures, it's almost impossible for one single thing going wrong to bring down an aircraft. Almost always, it's a whole snowballing combination of unfortunate factors that does so, and there are effective ways of dealing with those before they snowball. __________________ There are only forty people in the world and five of them are hamburgers. -Don Van Vliet (aka Captain Beefheart)

02-01-11, 11:04 AM	#3
gimpy117 Ocean Warrior Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Kalamazoo, MI Posts: 3,243 Downloads: 108 Uploads: 0	the onion is trolling again __________________ Member of the Subsim Zombie Army

02-01-11, 11:56 AM	#6
Growler A long way from the sea Join Date: May 2005 Location: Iowa Posts: 1,913 Downloads: 21 Uploads: 0	Most car crashes don't involve lots of passengers and several tons of airplane colliding with other, more resilient things like the ground, at relatively high rates of speed. I mean, try dropping your car on its roof at 120 mph and sliding it into a building with forty people on it. I guarantee, that's not gonna end well. __________________ At Fiddler’s Green, where seamen true When here they’ve done their duty The bowl of grog shall still renew And pledge to love and beauty.

02-01-11, 11:57 AM	#7
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	I think the biggest problem here is undertrained pilots. According to my studies, a full 30% of them don't know where the ground is, or even what it looks like. This can cause severe problems when trying to land. __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

02-01-11, 12:17 PM	#8
Growler A long way from the sea Join Date: May 2005 Location: Iowa Posts: 1,913 Downloads: 21 Uploads: 0	Flying is nothing more than throwing yourself at the ground and missing. __________________ At Fiddler’s Green, where seamen true When here they’ve done their duty The bowl of grog shall still renew And pledge to love and beauty.

02-01-11, 12:29 PM	#10
GoldenRivet Subsim Aviator Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 8,729 Downloads: 146 Uploads: 0	according to my studies... the cause of 100% of plane crashes is the ground. __________________

02-01-11, 12:56 PM	#11
ETR3(SS) Ocean Warrior Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Between test depth and periscope depth Posts: 3,021 Downloads: 175 Uploads: 16	Hmm, and here I thought this thread was about the Lolwaffles. __________________ USS Kentucky SSBN 737 (G) Comms Div 2003-2006 Qualified 19 November 03 Yes I was really on a submarine.

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