Aircraft

Otis38 · 03-12-10, 11:04 AM

Has anyone noticed that aircraft tend to be particularly benign in SH5? Admittedly I'm not far at all into the campaign but I've had 5 or 10 instances already with aircraft spotted in daylight and they just keep moseying on by.

I seem to recall in past SHs that if you were above the surface in daylight and an aircraft came within visual, you more often than not were attacked.

SteamWake · 03-12-10, 11:16 AM

A well known and documented behaviour.

Some claim they will radio in your position but I dont believe it.

Some have claimed they have been attacked.

But for me all they do is interrupt time compression.

Kapitanleutnant · 03-12-10, 11:18 AM

No you're the first person to notice this.

Mud · 03-12-10, 11:20 AM

atm I ignore aircraft completely, they fly by at close range but do nothing.
Im in October 1939.

Mud

Otis38 · 03-12-10, 11:24 AM

Thanks for the two confirmations and the one smartass answer.

Kapitanleutnant · 03-12-10, 11:26 AM

You're welcome.

mookiemookie · 03-12-10, 11:26 AM

Also related - airplanes at night in 1939. wtf?

SteamWake · 03-12-10, 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by mookiemookie

Also related - airplanes at night in 1939. wtf?

I was going to bring that up as well but figured it really dident answer his question. Day or night the aircraft are impotent.

But yea.. air cover 24/7

Safe-Keeper · 03-12-10, 12:16 PM

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Also related - airplanes at night in 1939. wtf?

That was my first thought, too - after "why aren't they engaging?". "What are so many planes doing in 1939!"

thseeker · 03-12-10, 12:41 PM

I noticed this also. In Total Germany and The Happy Times the planes did nothing but fly recon missions. Once I had advanced to (I forget the name. The one where you choose between staying in the atlantic or going to the Med) and had to patrol around Gibraltar and the Azores then the planes changed into 2 engine dive bombers and although they arent the best shots they had me diving to avoid them. They bombed me and in one instance strafed an empty spot of sea where I used to be.

My only problem with the planes at this point is that they seem to be able to follow you while submerged or they are the best estimaters of course and speed ever.

My thoughts are that the planes at the beginning are intentionally passive to represent the lack of aircraft sub kills at the beginning of the war. They get much more aggresive and numerous as the campaign progresses.

Herodotus · 03-12-10, 12:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thseeker

I noticed this also. In Total Germany and The Happy Times the planes did nothing but fly recon missions. Once I had advanced to (I forget the name. The one where you choose between staying in the atlantic or going to the Med) and had to patrol around Gibraltar and the Azores then the planes changed into 2 engine dive bombers and although they arent the best shots they had me diving to avoid them. They bombed me and in one instance strafed an empty spot of sea where I used to be.

My only problem with the planes at this point is that they seem to be able to follow you while submerged or they are the best estimaters of course and speed ever.

My thoughts are that the planes at the beginning are intentionally passive to represent the lack of aircraft sub kills at the beginning of the war. They get much more aggressive and numerous as the campaign progresses.

Nice to know, thanks. At the moment (1939/40) they are a pest only in that they drop me out of Warp (time compression) when I'm trying to get home for a refit, post haste

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remowilliams · 03-12-10, 01:11 PM

Ran into a bunch of German planes messing up a convoy while transiting the channel. Was fun to watch.

gmccabe01 · 03-12-10, 01:26 PM

Anyone manage to shoot one down yet?
My gunner is a bit slow in that he shoots at the plane and that means that all the shells end up behind the plane (useless bugger)

Otis38 · 03-12-10, 01:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thseeker

I noticed this also. In Total Germany and The Happy Times the planes did nothing but fly recon missions. Once I had advanced to (I forget the name. The one where you choose between staying in the atlantic or going to the Med) and had to patrol around Gibraltar and the Azores then the planes changed into 2 engine dive bombers and although they arent the best shots they had me diving to avoid them. They bombed me and in one instance strafed an empty spot of sea where I used to be.

My only problem with the planes at this point is that they seem to be able to follow you while submerged or they are the best estimaters of course and speed ever.

My thoughts are that the planes at the beginning are intentionally passive to represent the lack of aircraft sub kills at the beginning of the war. They get much more aggresive and numerous as the campaign progresses.

Thanks Thseeker...that's really what I was wondering.

SteamWake · 03-12-10, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by gmccabe01

Anyone manage to shoot one down yet?
My gunner is a bit slow in that he shoots at the plane and that means that all the shells end up behind the plane (useless bugger)

How in the heck did you get them to man the flak gun... let alone shoot at something

03-12-10, 11:04 AM	#1
Otis38 Swabbie Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 7 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	Aircraft Has anyone noticed that aircraft tend to be particularly benign in SH5? Admittedly I'm not far at all into the campaign but I've had 5 or 10 instances already with aircraft spotted in daylight and they just keep moseying on by. I seem to recall in past SHs that if you were above the surface in daylight and an aircraft came within visual, you more often than not were attacked.

03-12-10, 11:16 AM	#2
SteamWake Rear Admiral Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 13,224 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	A well known and documented behaviour. Some claim they will radio in your position but I dont believe it. Some have claimed they have been attacked. But for me all they do is interrupt time compression. __________________ Follow the progress of Mr. Mulligan : http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=147648

03-12-10, 11:18 AM	#3
Kapitanleutnant Frogman Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 305 Downloads: 22 Uploads: 0	No you're the first person to notice this. __________________ Oh worse than Hitler! You wouldn't find Hitler playing jungle music at three o'clock in the morning!

03-12-10, 11:20 AM	#4
Mud Captain Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 541 Downloads: 50 Uploads: 0	atm I ignore aircraft completely, they fly by at close range but do nothing. Im in October 1939. Mud __________________

03-12-10, 11:26 AM	#6
Kapitanleutnant Frogman Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 305 Downloads: 22 Uploads: 0	You're welcome. __________________ Oh worse than Hitler! You wouldn't find Hitler playing jungle music at three o'clock in the morning!

03-12-10, 11:24 AM	#5
Otis38 Swabbie Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 7 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	Thanks for the two confirmations and the one smartass answer.

03-12-10, 11:26 AM	#7
mookiemookie Navy Seal Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 9,404 Downloads: 105 Uploads: 1	Also related - airplanes at night in 1939. wtf? __________________ They don’t think it be like it is, but it do. Want more U-boat Kaleun portraits for your SH3 Commander Profiles? Download the SH3 Commander Portrait Pack here.

03-12-10, 12:41 PM	#10
thseeker Nub Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 3 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	I noticed this also. In Total Germany and The Happy Times the planes did nothing but fly recon missions. Once I had advanced to (I forget the name. The one where you choose between staying in the atlantic or going to the Med) and had to patrol around Gibraltar and the Azores then the planes changed into 2 engine dive bombers and although they arent the best shots they had me diving to avoid them. They bombed me and in one instance strafed an empty spot of sea where I used to be. My only problem with the planes at this point is that they seem to be able to follow you while submerged or they are the best estimaters of course and speed ever. My thoughts are that the planes at the beginning are intentionally passive to represent the lack of aircraft sub kills at the beginning of the war. They get much more aggresive and numerous as the campaign progresses.

03-12-10, 01:11 PM	#12
remowilliams Loader Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 90 Downloads: 16 Uploads: 0	Ran into a bunch of German planes messing up a convoy while transiting the channel. Was fun to watch.

03-12-10, 01:26 PM	#13
gmccabe01 Seaman Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Cobh in Ireland Posts: 42 Downloads: 207 Uploads: 0	Anyone manage to shoot one down yet? My gunner is a bit slow in that he shoots at the plane and that means that all the shells end up behind the plane (useless bugger)

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