They want to see Buckingham Palace become a mosque

[Onkel Neal]

Among Muslims in the United Kingdom, these radicals are an angry -- and uncompromising -- minority. They want to see Buckingham Palace become a mosque. Their goal: Muslim domination of the UK, if not the world.

Pretty wild!

Isn't this treason? Why don't the British just kill these guys?
Where are all the rednecks when you need them?

Where are all the rednecks when you need them?

It sounds like those people are the rednecks.

[Onkel Neal]

Then you do not know what a redneck is, obviously. For one, rednecks don't wear dresses.

[Oberon]

Oh yeah, this was on the news a few weeks back, I think the Sun had even done a little mock-up of what it'd look like. Still, every organisation has their nutters and short of civil war, I doubt it'll happen any time soon.

Probably about the time the Third Temple gets built I'd say...

[TarJak]

I took this shot today whilst visiting London. Looks like the conversion is underway.

Seriously though nutjobs of whatever race or creed should be sent to their doom preferably in a way that impacts no-one else.

As for rednecks wearing dresses, the one on the right looks like she's in a dress.

[Shearwater]

I didn't know that Islam was actually an economic system ...

You learn something new every day.

[GoldenRivet]

Originally Posted by TarJak

a darn nice one at that

looks good on her... would look better on the floor in my bed room.

[Letum]

Originally Posted by Neal Stevens

Isn't this treason? Why don't the British just kill these guys?

It's not treason, it's baiting.

The article about Buckingham Palace first appeared on part of the
website set up for non-muslims to read.

An attempt to polarise the argument, to turn it into 'us and them'.
Polarised arguments benefit the extremes on either end and spew
conflict by denying the vast area of grey crossover in which there is no
clear 'us and them'.

[August]

But Dude it's a direct and detailed plan to take over your country! He even threatened your QUEEN! Now you Brits once went to war because of the ear of some Sea Captain named Jenkins and now you allow such threats to go unpunished in your own country?

[Oberon]

Originally Posted by August

But Dude it's a direct and detailed plan to take over your country! He even threatened your QUEEN! Now you Brits once went to war because of the ear of some Sea Captain named Jenkins and now you allow such threats to go unpunished in your own country?

Primarily because these days most Brits don't give a flying rats arse about that kind of thing and if they do and speak about it they are assumed to be BNP. Most Brits care more about the X Factor and Jedward than they do about Buck House.
Sad state of affairs, but that's the UK now for you, and the major parties won't touch anything like immigration or racial tension with a ten foot barge pole because it'll blow up in their faces and people will accuse them of being fascist and so on and so forth.
It's for this reason and the underlying racial and religious tensions in the UK that the BNP is becoming more popular, and I say thank god for that, because it's got the main parties scared and they have finally realised that they will actually have to address the issues that the BNP thrives on to undermine their support and prevent a Weimar.

[Letum]

Originally Posted by Oberon

the major parties won't touch anything like immigration

WHAT?!
Immigration is one of the main opposition batons.
All three major parties list immigration on their online major policies
lists.

Immigration has been a BIG political topic for the major parties forever
and a day.
Things haven't got much past the “if you want a n_____r for a
neighbour, vote Labour” days. It's just the language that is toned down.

@Tribesman

Another interesting post Samurai, but firstly may I suggest that you read it again and then go back and read your first post in this topic.
Secondly I would like you to focus on that first post of yours and then re-read the posts I wrote.
Can you then combine the two stages and apply the criticisms in your last post to your first post.

But I think the problem is illustrated by

My comments to you were more of a general observation of the posts of yours that I have read.

so you were writing in a topic but not about the topic, yet were criticising what was written in the topic because of who had written it not what was written.

[clive bradbury]

To bring things back on track, and to answer Neal's initial question:

'Isn't this treason? Why don't the British just kill these guys?'

Because in the UK at least, we can still recognise a numpty when we see one.

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by Oberon

It's for this reason and the underlying racial and religious tensions in the UK that the BNP is becoming more popular, and I say thank god for that, because it's got the main parties scared and they have finally realised that they will actually have to address the issues that the BNP thrives on to undermine their support and prevent a Weimar.

A two-sided sword, though I tend to agree that the failure of the establoishement paves the way for more extremist poltical actors stepping onto the stage, and maybe that even is needed - if the established powers do not act. I read this morning that Geert Wilders runs for prime ministre 2011 - and that his party currently leads the Duch polls (says Der Spiegel). But we have seen in Germany repeatedly in the past years how grassroot movements and citizen groups trying to raise resistance to Islam and allowing (or being helpless against) rightwing groups taking over their fight, brought all such ambitions into public discredit over being called Nazism and racism. Even in the forum here the formula "opposing Islam = xenophobia + racism + islamophobia" is very popular with some.

Which makes being called a racist and xenophobe and islamophobe a compliment certifying your healthy reason and ratio.

Interesting how terms get turned into meaning all and nothing anymore.

But we have seen in Germany repeatedly in the past years how grassroot movements and citizen groups trying to raise resistance to Islam and allowing (or being helpless against) rightwing groups taking over their fight, brought all such ambitions into public discredit over being called Nazism and racism.

That is because the groups deal in absolutes which don't work, plus of course they are usually led by idiots like Wilders or Griffin and attract a disproportionate number of morons which give them a bad name.

It's for this reason and the underlying racial and religious tensions in the UK that the BNP is becoming more popular, and I say thank god for that, because it's got the main parties scared and they have finally realised that they will actually have to address the issues that the BNP thrives on to undermine their support and prevent a Weimar.

Nothing new, when I was living in Britain the BNP wanted to kick all the Irish out.
Apparently we are all terrorist supporters, don't intergrate and are part of a global plot by the Vatican.
Now its the Muslims turn, if they get rid of all the Muslims they will only find someone else to blame, probably the Jews again.
BTW do the BNP still do their protests outside M&W and Mark&Sparks?

Funnily enough though, when I was living in Germany it was the brits not the Irish that got the grief from the locals.