Chinese carrier weapon

Steel_Tomb · 07-07-09, 06:54 AM

http://www.rightsidenews.com/2009070...-carriers.html

How credible is this? How could the US counter such a threat? It seems that the days of the carrier as we know it might be coming to a close with technology such as this. From what I read in the article it has a low RCS and unpredictable flight path that missile systems can't track it... making the Aeigis system redundant against these.

What do you think?

Raptor1 · 07-07-09, 06:58 AM

It's simple, if your carrier can't withstand them, you just have to find and kill them before they can launch

Besides, anything can be countered by something else, it's just a matter of time

Carriers don't become obsolete until you can match their capabilities with something else

Jimbuna · 07-07-09, 07:11 AM

Should be interesting to see what antidote is invented....a vastly improved Aegis system perhaps.

Skybird · 07-07-09, 08:36 AM

The carrier doctrine has not been tested by an equal enemy since WWII. It is a peacetime weapon to be used for political intimidation ("world policeman"), or in small wars against inferior enemies ("Vietnam").

In a modern war against an equal enemy, I would expect submarines to be the deciding weapon, comparable to how carriers took over the dominant role from battleships in WWII. With today's lethality of weapons and guiding precision, staying undetected in order to not becoming a target constantly wins in importance.

That the concept of CBGs would survive a war with the Soviet Union, already was not certain during the cold war.

Technology is widespread nowadays. there is Russia, China, India as major competitors, although currently a war between them and the US and/or NATO appears to be unlikely. Regarding these nations, we live in a moment of fragile balance that by it's very balance opens a window of opportunity. That America uses it to form close ties with these three blocks is the most important priority beside preventing proliferation of WMDs. More and more, even the relations between the US and Europe are second to America's interest in India, China and Russia. It appears to me that Obama has understood this. As a European I may like that or I may like it not - but that's how things are nevertheless. Europe isn't as important for America anymore. The global balances are shifting to the pacific region.

07-07-09, 09:00 AM

Basically the deal is, when the aliens land, we will be declared as uncivilized barbarians and slaughtered wholesale.

Max2147 · 07-07-09, 09:09 AM

That's what we built the SM-3 for.

Actually, since it needs external guidance to hit a moving target that can change direction, the best way to defeat an ASBM would probably be through some form of ECM to mess with the guidance system.

07-07-09, 06:54 AM	#1
Steel_Tomb Ace of the Deep Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Cambridgeshire - UK Posts: 1,128 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Chinese carrier weapon http://www.rightsidenews.com/2009070...-carriers.html How credible is this? How could the US counter such a threat? It seems that the days of the carrier as we know it might be coming to a close with technology such as this. From what I read in the article it has a low RCS and unpredictable flight path that missile systems can't track it... making the Aeigis system redundant against these. What do you think? __________________ _______________________________________________ System Spec: Intel Core 2 Duo 2.4Ghz \| 4Gb Corsair XMS2 Dominator DDR2 PC-2 6400 RAM \| XFX GeForce 8800GTS 640mb PCI-E \| Creative X-fi sound card \| 250Gb HDD \| *Rest In Peace Dave, you will be missed.*

07-07-09, 06:58 AM	#2
Raptor1 Navy Seal Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Stavka Posts: 8,211 Downloads: 13 Uploads: 0	It's simple, if your carrier can't withstand them, you just have to find and kill them before they can launch Besides, anything can be countered by something else, it's just a matter of time Carriers don't become obsolete until you can match their capabilities with something else __________________ Current Eastern Front status: Probable Victory

07-07-09, 07:11 AM	#3
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,473 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	Should be interesting to see what antidote is invented....a vastly improved Aegis system perhaps. __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

07-07-09, 08:36 AM	#4
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,602 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	The carrier doctrine has not been tested by an equal enemy since WWII. It is a peacetime weapon to be used for political intimidation ("world policeman"), or in small wars against inferior enemies ("Vietnam"). In a modern war against an equal enemy, I would expect submarines to be the deciding weapon, comparable to how carriers took over the dominant role from battleships in WWII. With today's lethality of weapons and guiding precision, staying undetected in order to not becoming a target constantly wins in importance. That the concept of CBGs would survive a war with the Soviet Union, already was not certain during the cold war. Technology is widespread nowadays. there is Russia, China, India as major competitors, although currently a war between them and the US and/or NATO appears to be unlikely. Regarding these nations, we live in a moment of fragile balance that by it's very balance opens a window of opportunity. That America uses it to form close ties with these three blocks is the most important priority beside preventing proliferation of WMDs. More and more, even the relations between the US and Europe are second to America's interest in India, China and Russia. It appears to me that Obama has understood this. As a European I may like that or I may like it not - but that's how things are nevertheless. Europe isn't as important for America anymore. The global balances are shifting to the pacific region. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

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07-07-09, 09:00 AM	#5
Rilder Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	Basically the deal is, when the aliens land, we will be declared as uncivilized barbarians and slaughtered wholesale.

07-07-09, 09:09 AM	#6
Max2147 Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 714 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	That's what we built the SM-3 for. Actually, since it needs external guidance to hit a moving target that can change direction, the best way to defeat an ASBM would probably be through some form of ECM to mess with the guidance system.