whopped by a NEUTRAL convoy!

johnm · 03-25-09, 08:44 AM

Late 1939 in GW3 Gold (fantastic - thanks to all developers), I've just arrived at my patrol grid and some decent weather (after over a week of bad weather).

I get a radio message warning me thatt a large neutral convoy is in my sector. I identify it and track it's course - to avoid it, I have no intention of attacking. I realise I'm too near and dive to periscope depth to avoid the leading escort. I alter course to N (convoy at WSW). The convoy sails past except for the last escort, who sweeps around towards the north of the convoy and then runs down to re-join.

He gets too close and I deep dive to 100 metres. Obviously he hears me and the nasty so-n-so attacks! One depthcharge attack only and I have major damage! Before I can do anything about it - I'm dead.

Why be a neutral convoy if you're going to attack anything and everything?

Dashed unsporting, I call it, not playing the game

Synthfg · 03-25-09, 08:57 AM

Which Nationality, ? USA ? Ireland ?

unterseemann · 03-25-09, 09:08 AM

A convoy will appear as "neutral" if majority of its units are neutral BUT if there are let's say four british ships in this convoy then the escorts will attack you...Bad luck but now you will know and don't forget... BE MORE AGRESSIVE!

HW3 · 03-25-09, 10:27 AM

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A convoy will appear as "neutral" if majority of its units are neutral

Close but not quite right. A convoy will be reported as neutral if the lead ship (middle ship front row) is a neutral ship. All the rest could be enemy ships but, the convoy will be reported as neutral if the lead ship is neutral. There are convoys where all the ships are neutral but, those are usually not escorted.

danurve · 03-25-09, 10:42 AM

I'm inclined to agree with HW3.
On a prior partol I got in front of one of those neutral convoys being reported. lead center merchant was neutral, as were a handfull of others in the convoy. But, - the rest was juicy.

johnm · 03-25-09, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by HW3

Close but not quite right. A convoy will be reported as neutral if the lead ship (middle ship front row) is a neutral ship. All the rest could be enemy ships but, the convoy will be reported as neutral if the lead ship is neutral. There are convoys where all the ships are neutral but, those are usually not escorted.

Now I know - the cads!!

The next one gets it

unterseemann · 03-25-09, 11:08 AM

Thanks HW3 i just forgot about the leading ship...Early in the war convoys are sometimes a mix of neutral and enemy ships so you must pay close attention to what you're aiming for!

FIREWALL · 03-25-09, 11:38 AM

SINK'EM ALL !!!

Oneshot/Onekill · 03-25-09, 03:22 PM

Personally i attack any neutral warship, or merchant that is traveling under the protection of a country i'm at war with, or if they are suppling said name country. Edited my basic config. renown to reward me for doing so.

FIREWALL · 03-25-09, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Oneshot/Onekill

Personally i attack any neutral warship, or merchant that is traveling under the protection of a country i'm at war with, or if they are suppling said name country. Edited my basic config. renown to reward me for doing so.

I feel the same way. And I'd bet the Kpts did too.

Oneshot/Onekill · 03-25-09, 04:24 PM

@FIREWALL.

Done some research on U-boat.net and found alot of neutrals were sunk during the war. I don't think they all were accidents, although i'm sure that was Germany's official positon.

HW3 · 03-26-09, 01:33 AM

BTW, If the lead ship in a convoy happens to be a warship, the convoy will be reported as a taskforce.

gadflyjs · 03-26-09, 01:37 AM

Last night I encountered a neutral convoy leaving England, I knew that they're just wanted to fool us, so I chased it. I discovered that only the leading merchant was neutral, all other ship, including the escorts, were the Brit. Apparently, if (and only if ?) the leading merchant (the leading one in the middle column) was neutral, then the game would classified the whole convoy as neutral.

So, be aggressive, and attack the neutral convoys too!

Hartmann · 03-27-09, 06:19 PM

It´s the war in the atlantic, limited information and inteligence,

you have to verify all convoys and contacts as in real life , but remember, Be agressive and be careful with scorts.

in the real world neutral ships can carry enemy cargo and inteligence agents that could plot your position for hunter killers or destroyers.

Task Force · 03-28-09, 12:09 AM

At the begining of my current carrear (before britian entered the war in september 1939) I approached a neutral convoy. And 1 of the distroyers was Polish...

So I dive. and avoid a DC hit for about 30mins (real time).

Convoys appear friendly, neutral, or enemy depending on the lead ship if im correct. Also If a submarine is heading a corvoy. the convoy will show up as a big submarine marker.

(If I remember it right.)

03-25-09, 08:44 AM	#1
johnm Navy Dude Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: North of England Posts: 173 Downloads: 68 Uploads: 0	whopped by a NEUTRAL convoy! Late 1939 in GW3 Gold (fantastic - thanks to all developers), I've just arrived at my patrol grid and some decent weather (after over a week of bad weather). I get a radio message warning me thatt a large neutral convoy is in my sector. I identify it and track it's course - to avoid it, I have no intention of attacking. I realise I'm too near and dive to periscope depth to avoid the leading escort. I alter course to N (convoy at WSW). The convoy sails past except for the last escort, who sweeps around towards the north of the convoy and then runs down to re-join. He gets too close and I deep dive to 100 metres. Obviously he hears me and the nasty so-n-so attacks! One depthcharge attack only and I have major damage! Before I can do anything about it - I'm dead. Why be a neutral convoy if you're going to attack anything and everything? Dashed unsporting, I call it, not playing the game

03-25-09, 09:08 AM	#3
unterseemann Soundman Join Date: May 2005 Location: lyon, france Posts: 144 Downloads: 53 Uploads: 0	A convoy will appear as "neutral" if majority of its units are neutral BUT if there are let's say four british ships in this convoy then the escorts will attack you...Bad luck but now you will know and don't forget... BE MORE AGRESSIVE! __________________

03-25-09, 10:42 AM	#5
danurve The Old Man Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Syracuse, NY Posts: 1,481 Downloads: 22 Uploads: 3	I'm inclined to agree with HW3. On a prior partol I got in front of one of those neutral convoys being reported. lead center merchant was neutral, as were a handfull of others in the convoy. But, - the rest was juicy. __________________

03-25-09, 11:08 AM	#7
unterseemann Soundman Join Date: May 2005 Location: lyon, france Posts: 144 Downloads: 53 Uploads: 0	Thanks HW3 i just forgot about the leading ship...Early in the war convoys are sometimes a mix of neutral and enemy ships so you must pay close attention to what you're aiming for! __________________

03-25-09, 11:38 AM	#8
FIREWALL Eternal Patrol Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: CATALINA IS. SO . CAL USA Posts: 10,108 Downloads: 511 Uploads: 0	SINK'EM ALL !!! __________________ RIP FIREWALL I Play GWX. Silent Hunter Who ???

03-25-09, 08:57 AM	#2
Synthfg Sparky Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 154 Downloads: 64 Uploads: 0	Which Nationality, ? USA ? Ireland ?

03-25-09, 03:22 PM	#9
Oneshot/Onekill Captain Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Drinking a cold one in Davey Jone's locker. Posts: 487 Downloads: 26 Uploads: 0	Personally i attack any neutral warship, or merchant that is traveling under the protection of a country i'm at war with, or if they are suppling said name country. Edited my basic config. renown to reward me for doing so.

03-25-09, 04:24 PM	#11
Oneshot/Onekill Captain Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Drinking a cold one in Davey Jone's locker. Posts: 487 Downloads: 26 Uploads: 0	@FIREWALL. Done some research on U-boat.net and found alot of neutrals were sunk during the war. I don't think they all were accidents, although i'm sure that was Germany's official positon.

03-26-09, 01:33 AM	#12
HW3 Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Gresham Oregon Posts: 6,574 Downloads: 458 Uploads: 0	BTW, If the lead ship in a convoy happens to be a warship, the convoy will be reported as a taskforce. __________________ "Some ships are designed to sink...others require our assistance." Nathan Zelk

03-26-09, 01:37 AM	#13
gadflyjs Watch Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 21 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 0	Last night I encountered a neutral convoy leaving England, I knew that they're just wanted to fool us, so I chased it. I discovered that only the leading merchant was neutral, all other ship, including the escorts, were the Brit. Apparently, if (and only if ?) the leading merchant (the leading one in the middle column) was neutral, then the game would classified the whole convoy as neutral. So, be aggressive, and attack the neutral convoys too!

03-27-09, 06:19 PM	#14
Hartmann Sea Lord Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Grid CH 26, Spain ,Barcelona Posts: 1,857 Downloads: 204 Uploads: 0	It´s the war in the atlantic, limited information and inteligence, you have to verify all convoys and contacts as in real life , but remember, Be agressive and be careful with scorts. in the real world neutral ships can carry enemy cargo and inteligence agents that could plot your position for hunter killers or destroyers. __________________ But this ship can't sink!... She is made of iron, sir. I assure you, she can. and she will. It is a mathematical certainty. Strength and honor

03-28-09, 12:09 AM	#15
Task Force Rear Admiral Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: SPACE!!!! Posts: 10,142 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	At the begining of my current carrear (before britian entered the war in september 1939) I approached a neutral convoy. And 1 of the distroyers was Polish... So I dive. and avoid a DC hit for about 30mins (real time). Convoys appear friendly, neutral, or enemy depending on the lead ship if im correct. Also If a submarine is heading a corvoy. the convoy will show up as a big submarine marker.(If I remember it right.) __________________ Task Force industries "Taking control of the world, one mind at a time"

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