SPlitting ships in 2

DragonKing1990 · 02-09-09, 09:09 PM

Can all ships be split in 2? Or just a few?

Red Lord of Chaos · 02-09-09, 09:19 PM

In stock it seems to be most if not all of them, (though I haven't seen a sampan split...). Some of the mods change this so it doesn't happen.

DragonKing1990 · 02-09-09, 09:22 PM

ok here is another question how do I edit the torpedo settings? I try to open them with notepad but I get a jumbled mess. Are there any tools?

Sledgehammer427 · 02-09-09, 09:51 PM

S3D, in the mods workshop

miner1436 · 02-09-09, 10:04 PM

For some reason battleships can't be split.

tater · 02-09-09, 10:23 PM

Large warships don't split. It's easy to tell in S3D, if the main ship node has two daughters, one labeled B(ack?) and one labeled F(ore?) then it splits.

DragonKing1990 · 02-09-09, 10:24 PM

Does that include cruisers? And Aircraft carriers?

tater · 02-09-09, 10:25 PM

Yes. DDs have fore and aft parts, and maybe some of the CLs. Maybe. Open them with S3D, if they are subdivided inside, then they split.

DragonKing1990 · 02-09-09, 10:25 PM

okay what folder contains the ships?

tater · 02-09-09, 10:32 PM

Data/Sea/

There is a folder for each ship name. Open the Dat with S3D, and have a look. Don't save, though. Better to make a copy of the sea folder first, and work on that in case you break something.

It is realistic for the large ships, particularly warships, not to split. It didn't happen that I know of. Also, the way splitting works in SH4 is very deterministic. Once you know where to hit a ship that CAN split, it WILL split, every single time you hit that spot.

DragonKing1990 · 02-09-09, 10:39 PM

Well the BB HMS HOOD was split i two.

tater · 02-09-09, 11:15 PM

By a torpedo?

tater · 02-09-09, 11:16 PM

Seriously, though, you can make ships NOT split, easily. Making them split requires making the fore and aft hull sections in a 3d modeling program. It's non-trivial.

DragonKing1990 · 02-09-09, 11:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tater

By a torpedo?

deck gun from the Bismarck and I get your point

tater · 02-09-09, 11:25 PM

It was a magazine explosion, right? I suppose a fish might do that, but wasn't it a failure vs plunging fire? Still, I don't think spliting was common in major combatants except for just that sort of catastrophic event.

02-09-09, 09:09 PM	#1
DragonKing1990 Swabbie Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 9 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	SPlitting ships in 2 Can all ships be split in 2? Or just a few?

02-09-09, 09:19 PM	#2
Red Lord of Chaos Watch Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 25 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	In stock it seems to be most if not all of them, (though I haven't seen a sampan split...). Some of the mods change this so it doesn't happen. __________________ \'Ere\'s ta swimmin\' wit\' bow legged women!

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02-09-09, 09:22 PM	#3
DragonKing1990 Swabbie Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 9 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	ok here is another question how do I edit the torpedo settings? I try to open them with notepad but I get a jumbled mess. Are there any tools?

02-09-09, 10:04 PM	#5
miner1436 Grey Wolf Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 808 Downloads: 108 Uploads: 3	For some reason battleships can't be split.

02-09-09, 10:23 PM	#6
tater Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: New Mexico, USA Posts: 9,023 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 2	Large warships don't split. It's easy to tell in S3D, if the main ship node has two daughters, one labeled B(ack?) and one labeled F(ore?) then it splits.

02-09-09, 10:24 PM	#7
DragonKing1990 Swabbie Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 9 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Does that include cruisers? And Aircraft carriers?

02-09-09, 10:25 PM	#8
tater Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: New Mexico, USA Posts: 9,023 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 2	Yes. DDs have fore and aft parts, and maybe some of the CLs. Maybe. Open them with S3D, if they are subdivided inside, then they split.

02-09-09, 10:32 PM	#10
tater Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: New Mexico, USA Posts: 9,023 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 2	Data/Sea/ There is a folder for each ship name. Open the Dat with S3D, and have a look. Don't save, though. Better to make a copy of the sea folder first, and work on that in case you break something. It is realistic for the large ships, particularly warships, not to split. It didn't happen that I know of. Also, the way splitting works in SH4 is very deterministic. Once you know where to hit a ship that CAN split, it WILL split, every single time you hit that spot.

02-09-09, 10:39 PM	#11
DragonKing1990 Swabbie Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 9 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Well the BB HMS HOOD was split i two.

02-09-09, 11:15 PM	#12
tater Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: New Mexico, USA Posts: 9,023 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 2	By a torpedo?

02-09-09, 11:16 PM	#13
tater Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: New Mexico, USA Posts: 9,023 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 2	Seriously, though, you can make ships NOT split, easily. Making them split requires making the fore and aft hull sections in a 3d modeling program. It's non-trivial.

02-09-09, 11:25 PM	#15
tater Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: New Mexico, USA Posts: 9,023 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 2	It was a magazine explosion, right? I suppose a fish might do that, but wasn't it a failure vs plunging fire? Still, I don't think spliting was common in major combatants except for just that sort of catastrophic event.