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Gunner
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Hey guys,
I was wondering if anyone has tried to model the AN/APR-1 radar warning reciever for the US side of the game. Now that the expansion is out, and the german subs have their equivalent, would it be possible to export that to the US side of the game as a stand in? Some info on the outfitting of the AN/APR-1 -USS Razorback had one fitted after commisioning in August 1944. -USS Tang was fitted with one between her second and third war patrols, prior to June 8, 1944. Sources: http://www.aimm.museum/SS-394/ss-394_WWII.htm http://books.google.com/books?id=YFo...hl=en#PPA87,M1 (Yes, I realize I spelled receiver wrong, d'oh!) Last edited by ekempey; 06-11-08 at 02:02 PM. |
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I also have wondered about the lack of radar detection capability on US boats, given that that technology should be simpler that active radar units. If historically accurate as you point out, I think this would be a use full addition.
Also useful would be enemy AI reaction to ownship active emmisions.
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Gunner
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As far as emmissions, I don't know if that is possible (I haven't played much of the German side of the expansion, so I'm not sure). The SD modeled in game in not detectable, since it is not player controlled. Tang in her third & forth war patrols rarely used the SD since it could be detected. O'Kane relied on the good ole' Mark 1 Eyeballs.
Player controlable/detectable SD would be the greatest thing since sliced bread in SH4. Here is a pic of an SD reciever from the USS Cod (I'm guessing it's a post war SD-5, as according to this site). ![]() Here is a pic of an APR-4 (redesignated by US Air Force, basically the same an AN/APR-1). ![]() Last edited by ekempey; 06-10-08 at 07:19 PM. |
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Gunner
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I've been searching through the UPCUnitsData/Upgradepacks file, and the germans definitely have a RWR system in place. I have no idea as to how to transfer this to the fleet boats without breaking anything (possibly). If someone could explain this to me (especially if something compareable has been done in the past, and could send me a link to the thread), I could make this JSGME compatible for release.
The only thing that is totally out of my league would be placing an actual receiver on the conning tower shears. This is what the germans have: ; Radar Warning Receiver ;================================================= ======== [UpgradePack 10] ID= UpackIXFuMB1 NameDisplayable=UpackIXFuMB1-Name Info=UpackIXFuMB1-Info Notes=UpackIXFuMB1-Notes FunctionalType= UpFTypeSensorRadarWarningReceiver UpgradePackSlotType= IXRadarWarningReceiver Type=NULL ;UpgradePackInterval=1941-12-01, 1942-08-01 UnitUpgradePackIntervalOptionCurrent= NULL, NULL, 0 UnitUpgradePackIntervalOptions1=1942-08-01, 1943-07-01, 750 UnitUpgradePackIntervalOptions2=1943-07-01, 1943-08-01, 650 UnitUpgradePackIntervalOptions3=1943-08-01, 1943-09-01, 550 UnitUpgradePackIntervalOptions4=1943-09-01, 1943-10-01, 450 UnitUpgradePackIntervalOptions5=1943-10-01, 1945-09-01, 375 IDLinkUpgradePackElements= FuMB1 [UpgradePack 11] ID= UpackIXFuMB10 NameDisplayable=UpackIXFuMB10-Name Info=UpackIXFuMB10-Info Notes=UpackIXFuMB10-Notes FunctionalType= UpFTypeSensorRadarWarningReceiver UpgradePackSlotType= IXRadarWarningReceiver Type=NULL ;UpgradePackInterval=1941-12-01, 1942-08-01 UnitUpgradePackIntervalOptionCurrent= NULL, NULL, 0 UnitUpgradePackIntervalOptions1=1943-07-01, 1943-07-01, 1450 UnitUpgradePackIntervalOptions2=1943-07-01, 1943-08-01, 1350 UnitUpgradePackIntervalOptions3=1943-08-01, 1943-09-01, 1250 UnitUpgradePackIntervalOptions4=1943-09-01, 1943-10-01, 1150 UnitUpgradePackIntervalOptions5=1943-10-01, 1943-11-01, 1050 UnitUpgradePackIntervalOptions6=1943-11-01, 1943-12-01, 950 UnitUpgradePackIntervalOptions7=1943-12-01, 1944-01-01, 850 UnitUpgradePackIntervalOptions8=1944-01-01, 1944-02-01, 750 UnitUpgradePackIntervalOptions9=1944-02-01, 1944-03-01, 650 UnitUpgradePackIntervalOptions10=1944-03-01, 1944-04-01, 550 UnitUpgradePackIntervalOptions11=1944-04-01, 1944-05-01, 450 UnitUpgradePackIntervalOptions12=1944-05-01, 1945-09-01, 425 IDLinkUpgradePackElements= FuMB10 [UpgradePack 12] ID= UpackIXFuMB7 NameDisplayable=UpackIXFuMB7-Name Info=UpackIXFuMB7-Info Notes=UpackIXFuMB7-Notes FunctionalType= UpFTypeSensorRadarWarningReceiver UpgradePackSlotType= IXRadarWarningReceiver Type=NULL ;UpgradePackInterval=1941-12-01, 1942-08-01 UnitUpgradePackIntervalOptionCurrent= NULL, NULL, 0 UnitUpgradePackIntervalOptions1=1943-12-01, 1944-01-01, 1500 UnitUpgradePackIntervalOptions2=1944-01-01, 1944-02-01, 1400 UnitUpgradePackIntervalOptions3=1944-02-01, 1944-03-01, 1300 UnitUpgradePackIntervalOptions4=1944-03-01, 1944-04-01, 1200 UnitUpgradePackIntervalOptions5=1944-04-01, 1944-05-01, 1100 UnitUpgradePackIntervalOptions6=1944-05-01, 1944-06-01, 1000 UnitUpgradePackIntervalOptions7=1944-06-01, 1944-07-01, 900 UnitUpgradePackIntervalOptions8=1944-07-01, 1944-08-01, 800 UnitUpgradePackIntervalOptions9=1944-08-01, 1944-09-01, 700 UnitUpgradePackIntervalOptions10=1944-09-01, 1944-10-01, 600 UnitUpgradePackIntervalOptions11=1944-10-01, 1945-09-01, 500 IDLinkUpgradePackElements= FuMB7 [UpgradePack 13] ID= UpackIXFuMB26 NameDisplayable=UpackIXFuMB26-Name Info=UpackIXFuMB26-Info Notes=UpackIXFuMB26-Notes FunctionalType= UpFTypeSensorRadarWarningReceiver UpgradePackSlotType= IXRadarWarningReceiver Type=NULL ;UpgradePackInterval=1941-12-01, 1942-08-01 UnitUpgradePackIntervalOptionCurrent= NULL, NULL, 0 UnitUpgradePackIntervalOptions1=1944-05-01, 1944-06-01, 1800 UnitUpgradePackIntervalOptions2=1944-06-01, 1944-07-01, 1700 UnitUpgradePackIntervalOptions3=1944-07-01, 1944-08-01, 1600 UnitUpgradePackIntervalOptions4=1944-08-01, 1944-09-01, 1500 UnitUpgradePackIntervalOptions5=1944-09-01, 1944-10-01, 1400 UnitUpgradePackIntervalOptions6=1944-10-01, 1944-11-01, 1300 UnitUpgradePackIntervalOptions7=1944-11-01, 1944-12-01, 1200 UnitUpgradePackIntervalOptions8=1944-12-01, 1945-01-01, 1100 UnitUpgradePackIntervalOptions9=1945-01-01, 1945-02-01, 1000 UnitUpgradePackIntervalOptions10=1945-02-01, 1945-03-01, 900 UnitUpgradePackIntervalOptions11=1945-03-01, 1945-04-01, 800 UnitUpgradePackIntervalOptions12=1945-04-01, 1945-05-01, 700 UnitUpgradePackIntervalOptions13=1945-05-01, 1945-09-01, 600 IDLinkUpgradePackElements= FuMB26 [UpgradePack 14] ID= UpackXVIIIFuMB10 NameDisplayable=UpackIXFuMB10-Name Info=UpackIXFuMB10-Info Notes=UpackIXFuMB10-Notes FunctionalType= UpFTypeSensorRadarWarningReceiver UpgradePackSlotType= XVIIIRadarWarningReceiver Type=NULL ;UpgradePackInterval=1941-12-01, 1942-08-01 UnitUpgradePackIntervalOptionCurrent= NULL, NULL, 0 UnitUpgradePackIntervalOptions1=1944-04-01, 1944-05-01, 1500 UnitUpgradePackIntervalOptions2=1944-05-01, 1944-06-01, 1400 UnitUpgradePackIntervalOptions3=1944-06-01, 1944-07-01, 1300 UnitUpgradePackIntervalOptions4=1944-07-01, 1944-08-01, 1200 UnitUpgradePackIntervalOptions5=1944-08-01, 1944-09-01, 1100 UnitUpgradePackIntervalOptions6=1944-09-01, 1944-10-01, 1000 UnitUpgradePackIntervalOptions7=1944-10-01, 1944-11-01, 900 UnitUpgradePackIntervalOptions8=1944-11-01, 1944-12-01, 800 UnitUpgradePackIntervalOptions9=1944-12-01, 1945-09-01, 700 IDLinkUpgradePackElements= FuMB10 [UpgradePack 15] ID= UpackXVIIIFuMB7 NameDisplayable=UpackIXFuMB7-Name Info=UpackIXFuMB7-Info Notes=UpackIXFuMB7-Notes FunctionalType= UpFTypeSensorRadarWarningReceiver UpgradePackSlotType= XVIIIRadarWarningReceiver Type=NULL ;UpgradePackInterval=1941-12-01, 1942-08-01 UnitUpgradePackIntervalOptionCurrent= NULL, NULL, 0 UnitUpgradePackIntervalOptions1=1944-04-01, 1944-05-01, 1900 UnitUpgradePackIntervalOptions2=1944-05-01, 1944-06-01, 1800 UnitUpgradePackIntervalOptions3=1944-06-01, 1944-07-01, 1700 UnitUpgradePackIntervalOptions4=1944-07-01, 1944-08-01, 1600 UnitUpgradePackIntervalOptions5=1944-08-01, 1944-09-01, 1500 UnitUpgradePackIntervalOptions6=1944-09-01, 1944-10-01, 1400 UnitUpgradePackIntervalOptions7=1944-10-01, 1944-11-01, 1300 UnitUpgradePackIntervalOptions8=1944-11-01, 1944-12-01, 1200 UnitUpgradePackIntervalOptions9=1944-12-01, 1945-01-01, 1100 UnitUpgradePackIntervalOptions10=1945-01-01, 1945-02-01, 1000 UnitUpgradePackIntervalOptions11=1945-02-01, 1945-03-01, 900 UnitUpgradePackIntervalOptions12=1945-03-01, 1945-04-01, 800 UnitUpgradePackIntervalOptions13=1945-04-01, 1945-09-01, 700 IDLinkUpgradePackElements= FuMB7 [UpgradePack 16] ID= UpackXVIIIFuMB26 NameDisplayable=UpackIXFuMB26-Name Info=UpackIXFuMB26-Info Notes=UpackIXFuMB26-Notes FunctionalType= UpFTypeSensorRadarWarningReceiver UpgradePackSlotType= XVIIIRadarWarningReceiver Type=NULL ;UpgradePackInterval=1941-12-01, 1942-08-01 UnitUpgradePackIntervalOptionCurrent= NULL, NULL, 0 UnitUpgradePackIntervalOptions1=1944-08-01, 1944-09-01, 1900 UnitUpgradePackIntervalOptions2=1944-09-01, 1944-10-01, 1800 UnitUpgradePackIntervalOptions3=1944-10-01, 1944-11-01, 1700 UnitUpgradePackIntervalOptions4=1944-11-01, 1944-12-01, 1600 UnitUpgradePackIntervalOptions5=1944-12-01, 1945-01-01, 1500 UnitUpgradePackIntervalOptions6=1945-01-01, 1945-02-01, 1400 UnitUpgradePackIntervalOptions7=1945-02-01, 1945-03-01, 1300 UnitUpgradePackIntervalOptions8=1945-03-01, 1945-04-01, 1200 UnitUpgradePackIntervalOptions9=1945-04-01, 1945-05-01, 1100 UnitUpgradePackIntervalOptions10=1945-05-01, 1945-06-01, 1000 UnitUpgradePackIntervalOptions11=1945-06-01, 1945-07-01, 900 UnitUpgradePackIntervalOptions12=1945-07-01, 1945-08-01, 800 UnitUpgradePackIntervalOptions13=1945-08-01, 1945-09-01, 700 IDLinkUpgradePackElements= FuMB26 |
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Ok, thanks for the info.
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