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Old 03-16-08, 02:30 AM   #1
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I never heard of this

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23654623/

http://www.smh.com.au/news/national/...s_cid=rss_news

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMAS_Sydney_(1934)
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Old 03-16-08, 03:14 AM   #2
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So...they pretty much found everything EXCEPT the Sydney?

I hope they'll find her somewhen in my lifetime...
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Old 03-16-08, 11:27 AM   #3
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Never heard of it?? I've always thought of it as a famous story; the only time an actual warship was tricked and sunk by a glorified merchant.

On the other hand, it may be because of my fascination with the previous war's HMAS Sydney, which tracked and sank the infamous German light cruiser SMS Emden.
http://www.worldwar1.co.uk/emden.html

The adventures of SMS Emden and the stolen schooner Ayesha would make an amazing movie.
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Germany's U-Boats got most of the glory for sinking shipping, but those German commerce raiders had quite the career. One, the Michel operated out of Yokohama, Japan after a long stint in the Indian Ocean. On her return to Japan after a raid off the coast of Western Australia , just 50 miles out from port, Michel was spotted by US submarine Tarpon, who attacked in one of the few instances of American submarines attacking a German vessel during WWII, hitting her with 3 torpedoes. Michel sank, with 290 of her crew, including her captain. The survivors, 116 in total, were able to reach Japan after a three day journey in open boats.
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I'd like to see a mod where you can operate one of these raiders. Btw, weren't these normally referred to as "flaklighters"?
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I believe the term the Germans used was Hilfskreuzer---Auxiliary Cruiser.

Also, Handels-Stor-Kreuzer---Raider Cruiser.
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I'd like to see a mod where you can operate one of these raiders. Btw, weren't these normally referred to as "flaklighters"?
I think the flaklighters were coastal convoy escorts. I saw them mentioned once in a book about the Channel PT-boat war.

Not sure, but I think this is him:
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