[TEC] Can a new hydrophone sensor be created?

LukeFF · 12-27-07, 04:51 AM

Here's my thinking on the matter: the radarman can monitor two separate radar systems (SD and SJ) at the same time, and of course they both have their own attributes. Now, why can't that be done with the sonarman? Theoretically, we could create a new passive sonar sensor that works only when on the surface and has a shorter range than the submerged sonar. It would then be monitored at the same time as the "old" hydrophone and thus solve the problem of submerged vs. surfaced sonar contacts.

So, can this be done?

tater · 12-27-07, 10:01 AM

I tried this before (it's in my thread regarding changing the ai visual sensors) and it didn't seem to work to have 2 visuals for AI ships. Haven't tried it with hydrophones, and haven't tried for a sub.

Peto · 12-27-07, 02:45 PM

I tried doing something similar in SH3 with active sonar (I wanted to model 147 sonar accurately). I could never get it to work. I think the problem is that each platform has a limit of one sensor type. Radar actually has two types, surface and air, and that's why the radarman can monitor both of those systems simultaneously. I wonder what "SurfaceFactor" settings would have on passive systems?

I plan to mess with sonar settings some more in the near future (mostly AI though). I want to finish another little job I have started though. Could be a while...

Ducimus · 12-27-07, 04:17 PM

Ive always had a suspiction that SD radar, is a retooled RWR from SH3. Just a suspiction though, ive never really examined it closely.

tater · 12-27-07, 04:42 PM

^ that would make a lot of sense. Note that I even tried adding additional visual nodes tot he ship dat files. No dice.

LukeFF · 12-28-07, 03:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ducimus

Ive always had a suspiction that SD radar, is a retooled RWR from SH3. Just a suspiction though, ive never really examined it closely.

Yep, that might be the case and the reason for this statment from the devs:

Quote:

One could argue that in real fleet boats there was a separate – Sonic – listening post in the forward Torpedo Room. And that is certainly true, but our model for hydrophones is not complex enough to justify implementing both Supersonic and Sonic listening posts.

12-27-07, 04:51 AM	#1
LukeFF Silent Hunter Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Riverside, California Posts: 3,610 Downloads: 41 Uploads: 5	[TEC] Can a new hydrophone sensor be created? Here's my thinking on the matter: the radarman can monitor two separate radar systems (SD and SJ) at the same time, and of course they both have their own attributes. Now, why can't that be done with the sonarman? Theoretically, we could create a new passive sonar sensor that works only when on the surface and has a shorter range than the submerged sonar. It would then be monitored at the same time as the "old" hydrophone and thus solve the problem of submerged vs. surfaced sonar contacts. So, can this be done?

12-27-07, 02:45 PM	#3
Peto Ace of the Deep Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: The details of my life are quite inconsequential Posts: 1,049 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	I tried doing something similar in SH3 with active sonar (I wanted to model 147 sonar accurately). I could never get it to work. I think the problem is that each platform has a limit of one sensor type. Radar actually has two types, surface and air, and that's why the radarman can monitor both of those systems simultaneously. I wonder what "SurfaceFactor" settings would have on passive systems? I plan to mess with sonar settings some more in the near future (mostly AI though). I want to finish another little job I have started though. Could be a while... __________________ If your target has a 30 degree AOB, the range from his base course line equals the current range divided by 2.

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12-27-07, 10:01 AM	#2
tater Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: New Mexico, USA Posts: 9,023 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 2	I tried this before (it's in my thread regarding changing the ai visual sensors) and it didn't seem to work to have 2 visuals for AI ships. Haven't tried it with hydrophones, and haven't tried for a sub.

12-27-07, 04:17 PM	#4
Ducimus Rear Admiral Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 12,987 Downloads: 67 Uploads: 2	Ive always had a suspiction that SD radar, is a retooled RWR from SH3. Just a suspiction though, ive never really examined it closely.

12-27-07, 04:42 PM	#5
tater Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: New Mexico, USA Posts: 9,023 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 2	^ that would make a lot of sense. Note that I even tried adding additional visual nodes tot he ship dat files. No dice.