Iranian Submarine

[Herr_Pete]

love this iranian submarine that can't be detected by radar. bet ya the US find it in no time.

[August]

Originally Posted by Herr_Pete

love this iranian submarine that can't be detected by radar. bet ya the US find it in no time.

That's nothing. Did you hear about the new Iranian fighter? It can't be detected by sonar!

[Herr_Pete]

ahaha lol you know theres something not rite. probs tested it with there 'modern technology' no doubt several decades old so maybe they beat there own rubbish lol forgeting major powers like US and UK are miles ahead lol

[Chock]

ahaha lol you know theres something not rite. probs tested it with there 'modern technology' no doubt several decades old so maybe they beat there own rubbish lol forgeting major powers like US and UK are miles ahead lol

I daresay it may not be as good as they claim, but underestimating your enemy and not treating them as a credible threat is one of the most basic tactical errors you can make. The US thought Pearl Harbor was too shallow to permit Japanese aircraft to drop air-launched torpedoes into, with the technology the Japs had, and we know what happened there.

Also do not underestimate the levels of education in Iran and their abilities where technological advancements are concerned. It might be a popular notion to regard them as Jihad following camel jockeys that struggle with clapped-out old Russian equipment and derivatives of it, but the truth is the Iranians are very highly educated and very sophisticated people, with a long tradition of innovation, particularly in nautical matters. The Astolabe, for example, is an Arabic invention; you might also want to note that the word, admiral, is an arabic word, meaning commander of the seas.

Chock

[micky1up]

it took ten years to build so the plans are at least 15 years old man its outdated already



and of course they have a proud submarine tradition having the equipment is one thing the quality of the crew thats a different matter. a study after the first gulf war conculded that if the roles had been reversed and the allies had the iraqis equipment and the iraqis thiers the allies still would have won

[Marcantilan]

Don´t underestimate the capacity of a SSK operating in shallow waters, specially in the tricky (hot & cold currents) Persian Gulf waters.

The new iranian boats are no joke for the US Navy.

[Stealth Hunter]

Originally Posted by Chock

I daresay it may not be as good as they claim, but underestimating your enemy and not treating them as a credible threat is one of the most basic tactical errors you can make. The US thought Pearl Harbor was too shallow to permit Japanese aircraft to drop air-launched torpedoes into, with the technology the Japs had, and we know what happened there.

Also do not underestimate the levels of education in Iran and their abilities where technological advancements are concerned. It might be a popular notion to regard them as Jihad following camel jockeys that struggle with clapped-out old Russian equipment and derivatives of it, but the truth is the Iranians are very highly educated and very sophisticated people, with a long tradition of innovation, particularly in nautical matters. The Astolabe, for example, is an Arabic invention; you might also want to note that the word, admiral, is an arabic word, meaning commander of the seas.

Chock

Well said, my friend.

As an Iranian who lived in Tehran and who fought during the Iran-Iraq War, I can honestly tell you that you must not underestimate my old countrymen. We Middle-Easterners can be slippery to get a grip on (both mentally and physically).

[Foxtrot]

The serb dude nailed F-117 with a vintage SAM missile.
and he eats F-117 cake every year in March :rotfl:

[TteFAboB]

How defended is the SSK's dock?

[Herr_Pete]

Dont the Germans have the most advanced submarine out at the moment, i read somehwere on this site they had the most technoloicaly advanced submarine?

[Sea Demon]

Originally Posted by Herr_Pete

Dont the Germans have the most advanced submarine out at the moment, i read somehwere on this site they had the most technoloicaly advanced submarine?

I'm not sure, but there are a number of subs that could stand in this category. If you want to talk about packing the most new technology per square inch, combined with overall performance, I'm not so sure that the German's latest conventional subs would stand up to that. I do however think that these German subs have some of the most, if not the most innovative propulsion, and quieting measures ever built into a submarine. In their environment, they would be utterly difficult to detect and defeat. While the 212's 214 may be the most advanced in the category of conventional submarines, the Virginia and Astute's are not to be taken lightly by any means. There have been tremendous innovations built into them as well. Of course, they are nuclear subs, and could be taken into another category of submarine as their operations would be different that what the 212 would do.

I think it is truly hard to measure most advanced sub because of the difficulty in knowing what they can actually do in their classified stats. But all in all, I wouldn't be surprised if the German subs had the most innovations built into them, awarding them that honor.

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by Sea Demon

I'm not sure, but there are a number of subs that could stand in this category. If you want to talk about packing the most new technology per square inch, combined with overall performance, I'm not so sure that the German's latest conventional subs would stand up to that. I do however think that these German subs have some of the most, if not the most innovative propulsion, and quieting measures ever built into a submarine. In their environment, they would be utterly difficult to detect and defeat. While the 212's 214 may be the most advanced in the category of conventional submarines, the Virginia and Astute's are not to be taken lightly by any means. There have been tremendous innovations built into them as well. Of course, they are nuclear subs, and could be taken into another category of submarine as their operations would be different that what the 212 would do.

I think it is truly hard to measure most advanced sub because of the difficulty in knowing what they can actually do in their classified stats. But all in all, I wouldn't be surprised if the German subs had the most innovations built into them, awarding them that honor.

I would put the Swedish Gotland class beside that German type 212/214. Both are a class of their own currently, it seems to me. BTW, the boat the US navy has leased in order to train against it, is a Gotland class. After over one year, or is it even already two?, the Navy still sees the score to nil against it. If you are up against a Gotland or 212, you are most likely sitting on the loosing end of the deal.

Sweden is a top inventor and producer of military equipment. Often they produced a worldwide first in the past, and came up with ideas that were seen in the West just some years later.

[gimpy117]

yeah... iran is playing a war of words, and just trying to make life hard for us by messing around with "new devlopments in tech" (like the enriched Urainium issue). theres no doubt that the sub is using modern tech (at least more modern than other irainian subs) but i also highly doubt it has sonar avoiding tech. probabbly it's a half truth, and, it has design to make it more stealthy than it's predecessors.

in a nutshell, iran is just screwing with us, heck maybe they don't even have it deployed in the gulf at all and want us to go on a wild goose chase. (maybe they don't even have it at all and it's just a dressed up older sub)

[Drebbel]

Originally Posted by Herr_Pete

love this iranian submarine that can't be detected by radar. bet ya the US find it in no time.

Isn't every submarine invisible to radar when submerged ?

[August]

Originally Posted by Drebbel

Isn't every submarine invisible to radar when submerged ?

Drebbel! Long time no see (post). How have you been dude?