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Old 10-23-07, 12:54 PM   #1
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Default Steep decline in oil production brings risk of war and unrest, says new study.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/oil/story/0,,2196435,00.html

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World oil production has already peaked and will fall by half as soon as 2030, according to a report which also warns that extreme shortages of fossil fuels will lead to wars and social breakdown.
The German-based Energy Watch Group will release its study in London today saying that global oil production peaked in 2006 - much earlier than most experts had expected. The report, which predicts that production will now fall by 7% a year, comes after oil prices set new records almost every day last week, on Friday hitting more than $90 (£44) a barrel.
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Old 10-23-07, 12:56 PM   #2
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We I will be an old fart by then better stock up on guns a dark time is coming.

By the way have they taken in to account there be more people on the planet as the years go by resulting in greater consumption.
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Old 10-23-07, 01:16 PM   #3
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You have posted this three times!!
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Old 10-23-07, 01:31 PM   #4
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Yep. Better find a way to protect your food since I would think that you may need to do that in the future.

I wonder how a country like America will be affected? Will we just go all electric? We have enough coal in this country to last many of my lifetimes. I don't expect the same impact here as I would in a 3rd world country. Just my thoughts on it.

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Old 10-23-07, 02:05 PM   #6
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Well IMHO America would be affected as bad if not worse than anywhere else.
Is there any other country in the world so dependant on the car?
For instance.....
How far to the nearest food store if you live in an american city? And by what means of transport would that food have got there?
Then theres the airplane.
No other country is so dependant on air travel/transportation. (Understandable given the size of the place)
I don't think the solar/electric/wind or wave powered aircraft is anywhere near on the horizon.

Lets face it, if/when the oil runs out we are all done for.
I don't agree with that assesment. A. We will still be buying much of that oil in 2030 at the expense of other countries not getting as much, and B. we have the ability to innovate and adapt where a 3rd world country lacks the technical talent to do so - http://www.evworld.com/evguide.cfm?evtype=production

Cali has 5,000 of them on the road.

And if Iceland can get Hydrogen going for it's populace, I don't see why we can't given 30 years time! Isn't that enough time to adapt?

Never underestimate the capitalists societies ability to adapt to make money. I don't think we will have that many problems, assuming nuclear war does not hit us first with Iran and it's ambitions.

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Old 10-23-07, 02:38 PM   #7
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I don't particularly want to start a flame war or bash America.....

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Well IMHO America would be affected as bad if not worse than anywhere else.
Is there any other country in the world so dependant on the car?
For instance.....
How far to the nearest food store if you live in an american city? And by what means of transport would that food have got there?
Then theres the airplane.
No other country is so dependant on air travel/transportation. (Understandable given the size of the place)
I don't think the solar/electric/wind or wave powered aircraft is anywhere near on the horizon.

Lets face it, if/when the oil runs out we are all done for.
I don't agree with that assesment. A. We will still be buying much of that oil in 2030 at the expense of other countries not getting as much, and B. we have the ability to innovate and adapt where a 3rd world country lacks the technical talent to do so - http://www.evworld.com/evguide.cfm?evtype=production

Cali has 5,000 of them on the road.

And if Iceland can get Hydrogen going for it's populace, I don't see why we can't given 30 years time! Isn't that enough time to adapt?

Never underestimate the capitalists societies ability to adapt to make money. I don't think we will have that many problems, assuming nuclear war does not hit us first with Iran and it's ambitions.

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We will still be buying much of that oil in 2030 at the expense of other countries not getting as much

But when you express opinions like that you can't expect other nations to hold yours with much regard.

Quotes like that could be construded by some more extreme people around the world, as reason to attack America before it uses its financial clout to take their oil.

Less extreme people might think "with allies like this who needs......"

But maybe I'm wrong and that was a typo
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